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[Antitrust32]

Fine, lets make a bet

I say Halladay wins the Cy Young

you think Jurrjens.

$25 if either of us are correct.

if a different pitcher wins the award, no pay out.

and if either pitcher lands on the DL in the 2nd half, bet is void.

put your money where your mouth is.

[Antitrust32]

the expectations were high, and they have exceeded them. unless you want to hold Oswalt blowing his back out against it.

i thought they could be comparable to the braves in the 90's and so far they have. i'll be you will argue that also! they have three of the top 9 pitchers in baseball (top 7 if you use some stats). hard to see where you are coming from, except more Philly hate.

and I can come up with a lot more words than dumbass and idiot. those are just two words that explain your baseball stance pretty well (and sports stance in general)

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Fine, lets make a bet

I say Halladay wins the Cy Young

you think Jurrjens.

$25 if either of us are correct.

if a different pitcher wins the award, no pay out.

and if either pitcher lands on the DL in the 2nd half, bet is void.

put your money where your mouth is.

Deal (though as I said earlier, not sure Halladay is even the Phillies pitcher most likely to win the Cy Young, all things considered)

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Deal (though as I said earlier, not sure Halladay is even the Phillies pitcher most likely to win the Cy Young, all things considered)

good.

hopefully neither pitcher ends up on the DL so we can settle this with cash.

[Antitrust32]

and team wins??? thats the only thing that matters in baseball. You want your team to win when your ace is up there. its the only thing that matters to being an ace, and to playing baseball in general.

Yes, it is impressive and meaningful that the Tigers and Phillies are a combined 19-1 in their horses last 10 starts.

[Antitrust32]

its hard for me to believe you looked at those stat lines and saw so much of a difference.

they are almost identical. what halladay lacks in having a 0.30 higher ERA, he makes up with SO to BB ratio of 8.11 compared to Verlander 4.74. SO to BB is a HUGE statistic when it comes to pitching.

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

and team wins??? thats the only thing that matters in baseball. You want your team to win when your ace is up there. its the only thing that matters to being an ace, and to playing baseball in general.

Yes, it is impressive and meaningful that the Tigers and Phillies are a combined 19-1 in their horses last 10 starts.

Team wins are meaningless in determining whether a pitcher pitched well or not. I don't see any other way around that. Verlander went eight innings and gave up one ER two weeks ago and lost because Dan Haren went nine innings and gave up zero. Does that mean Verlander didn't pitch well in that start? Of course not.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Team wins are meaningless in determining whether a pitcher pitched well or not. I don't see any other way around that. Verlander went eight innings and gave up one ER two weeks ago and lost because Dan Haren went nine innings and gave up zero. Does that mean Verlander didn't pitch well in that start? Of course not.

no but,

W L W W W W W W W W

and

W W W W W W W W W W

indicate some damn good pitching... especially when you look at the low scores next to the W.

Verlander and Halladay have been almost mirror images of each other this year. the fact that Halladay gives up one more run per THREE starts doesnt change that, and neither does the fact that Halladays SO / BB ratio is close to double compared to Verlander.