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Antitrust32 · #1 07-12-2011, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

Seriously, end of argument. It's not seven innings or more. Never has been seven innings or more. It's six innings, three runs or less, end of story. I can't argue with someone who doesn't understand what they're arguing.

its hilarous 6 innings and 3 runs would be a below average start for a phillies player.

slotdirt · #2 07-12-2011, 10:10 AM

THen petition someone to change the definition of quality start. Halladay has 16, by the way, which is only one more than Jurjjens and three fewer than Verlander (Verlander stat thrown in for perspective).

Antitrust32 · #3 07-12-2011, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

THen petition someone to change the definition of quality start. Halladay has 16, by the way, which is only one more than Jurjjens and three fewer than Verlander (Verlander stat thrown in for perspective).

jurrjens has 14.. that is 2 less than halladay.

just fixing your math.

Antitrust32 · #4 07-12-2011, 10:16 AM

i like how you ignore how many more innings halladay has gone, and how many more batters he's faced.

you are just uninformed.

and shoot, JJ is pitching great, out of his mind.. but there is a reason Halladay is starting the all star game over him.

slotdirt · #5 07-12-2011, 10:28 AM

All-Star starter is meaningful stat now? Sheesh.

ANd the argument isn't Jurjjens vs. Halladay, by the way. Shoot, Hamels is probably having the better season than Halladay anyway.

Antitrust32 · #6 07-12-2011, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

All-Star starter is meaningful stat now? Sheesh.

ANd the argument isn't Jurjjens vs. Halladay, by the way. Shoot, Hamels is probably having the better season than Halladay anyway.

Hamels is close. Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball, and has been for years.

only an idiot would say that a team doesnt have the best rotation and then post a link proving said team does have the best rotation (and according to that link, best overall pitching)

slotdirt · #7 07-12-2011, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Hamels is close. Halladay is the best pitcher in baseball, and has been for years.

only an idiot would say that a team doesnt have the best rotation and then post a link proving said team does have the best rotation (and according to that link, best overall pitching)

Halladay has been the best pitcher in baseball and a surefire hall of famer Is he in 2011? I'd say 99 out of 100 managers and GM's would take Verlander based on the two pitchers respective first half work. Halladay is a great pitcher; Verlander has been borderline unhittable this year.

On the "only an idiot" question, I presume that "only an idiot" would take precisely one statistical measurement and try to make an argument over it, particularly when a person is also using the "honor" of All-Star starter of all things to bolster one's argument. Further, "only an idiot" would quote the 19.2 vs. 17.7 PHI-ATL WAR statistic and not realize that team WAR also includes bullpens.

Stick to blindly defending Philadelphia sports rather than objective arguments; clearly the former is your strong point.

Antitrust32 · #8 07-12-2011, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt

All-Star starter is meaningful stat now? Sheesh. .

it's not a stat, it's called an honor. an honor given by the manager (Giants manger) to the pitcher he believes is the best on his all star team.

Indian Charlie · #9 07-12-2011, 11:53 AM

Does anyone here think First Dude has a strong look at HOY?

Antitrust32 · #10 07-12-2011, 10:11 AM

oh wow. you won the definition of quality starts.

the rest of the **** you wrote is just, ****.

halladay still has more quality starts. plus he has faced 125 more batters than JJ.

argue that