New York is gay approved

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

How about protesting s.hit that really matters like unconstitutional wars? And lets not bulls.hit over it by saying Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan and Iraq aren't wars. Not to mention in the coming months and years it will include Syria, Iran and covert ops to get India and China fighting amongst themselves.

It's all setting the stage for WWIII.

Gay rights are important but it's not life or death.

True. After the past 10 years, we have war fatigue. The country should have rose up en masse during Bush and Iraq, but we bought it hook, line and sinker. It's hard to keep up a fight against that. My generation started with Viet Nam. We're tired. And those coming afterwards don't seem to care as much. I don't know why.

Originally Posted by Riot

True. After the past 10 years, we have war fatigue. The country should have rose up en masse during Bush and Iraq, but we bought it hook, line and sinker. It's hard to keep up a fight against that. My generation started with Viet Nam. We're tired. And those coming afterwards don't seem to care as much. I don't know why.

I've talked to a few guys serving and they've all been on multiple tours. Some of them are emotionally gone, Riot. Off the reservation so to speak. Remember that the first gulf war gave us Timothy McVeigh. He was considered a hero for his service.

They're unjust wars and the blowback will be tremendous.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I've talked to a few guys serving and they've all been on multiple tours. Some of them are emotionally gone, Riot. Off the reservation so to speak.

Precisely. I agree completely. Why did we let this happen to us?

Originally Posted by Riot

Precisely. I agree completely. Why did we let this happen to us?

Revenge.

Mission accomplished, eh?

[Danzig]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43573008..._central_asia/


Cost of US wars since 9/11? At least $3.7 trillion, study finds
224,000 people have died directly from warfare and 7.8 million people have been displaced


When President Barack Obama cited cost as a reason to bring troops home from Afghanistan, he referred to a $1 trillion price tag for America's wars.

Staggering as it is, that figure grossly underestimates the total cost of wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan to the U.S. Treasury and ignores more imposing costs yet to come, according to a study released Wednesday.

The final bill will reach at least $3.7 trillion and could be as high as $4.4 trillion, according to the research project "Costs of War" by Brown University's Watson Institute for International Studies.

In the 10 years since U.S. troops went into Afghanistan to root out the al-Qaida leaders behind the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, spending on the conflicts totaled $2.3 trillion to $2.7 trillion.

Those numbers will continue to soar when considering often overlooked costs such as long-term obligations to wounded veterans and projected war spending from 2012 through 2020.

The estimates do not include at least $1 trillion more in interest payments coming due and many billions more in expenses that cannot be counted, according to the study.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43573008..._central_asia/


Cost of US wars since 9/11? At least $3.7 trillion, study finds
224,000 people have died directly from warfare and 7.8 million people have been displaced


When President Barack Obama cited cost as a reason to bring troops home from Afghanistan, he referred to a $1 trillion price tag for America's wars.

Staggering as it is, that figure grossly underestimates the total cost of wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan to the U.S. Treasury and ignores more imposing costs yet to come, according to a study released Wednesday.

The final bill will reach at least $3.7 trillion and could be as high as $4.4 trillion, according to the research project "Costs of War" by Brown University's Watson Institute for International Studies.

In the 10 years since U.S. troops went into Afghanistan to root out the al-Qaida leaders behind the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, spending on the conflicts totaled $2.3 trillion to $2.7 trillion.

Those numbers will continue to soar when considering often overlooked costs such as long-term obligations to wounded veterans and projected war spending from 2012 through 2020.

The estimates do not include at least $1 trillion more in interest payments coming due and many billions more in expenses that cannot be counted, according to the study.

The cost of having Islam in this world is sadly immense.