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Old 06-27-2011, 07:21 PM
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Not really strangely run - Hope For A Win was up a pole in the blink of an eye last out.

She was totally loose again - not like other speeds were run into the ground trying to go with her.
I thought in her previous race, when she went 21 & 2, Husbands attempted to rate her a bit after getting that big lead. Emma Jayne did no such thing on Saturday, and the race did collapse. No other speed horses ran with her, they couldn't, but it then caused them to potentially do something they weren't yet comfortable doing, trying to close.

Despite all this, I agree with you, I think she can be a special horse.
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Old 06-27-2011, 07:29 PM
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and the race did collapse.
Can a 5 furlong race on synthetic really collapse? That's like a 3.5 furlong race on dirt.
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Old 06-27-2011, 07:58 PM
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To lend some perspective using the Trakus data, Tu Endie Wei traveled 3,377 feet in the five furlong race, breaking from post 13. The number of five furlong races with horses breaking from 12 and out are limited, but the average they've traveled is 3,359 feet. For all horses running five furlongs at Woodbine, the average traveled is 3,345 feet.

Tu Endie Wei's winning margin was 4.75 lengths, but if given the average trip, she probably wins by more than 8 lengths, and almost assuredly would've broken the course record with an inside trip. She traveled anywhere between 9 and 45 feet more than the rest of the field.

The second place horse, who closed from well back, is going to look good on paper coming back, but Tu Endie Wei traveled 31 feet more and still beat her well. I think the second place horse is the one to potentially bet against next out considering many people are probably going to think her late move was flashy.
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Old 06-27-2011, 08:02 PM
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Is the rail good there, Pat?

I don't bet Woodbine - but I watch a lot of races on TV - and it seems like the wides do fine.
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Old 06-27-2011, 08:28 PM
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Is the rail good there, Pat?

I don't bet Woodbine - but I watch a lot of races on TV - and it seems like the wides do fine.
From a pure post position standpoint, there aren't any overwhelming post biases for sprinting wins.
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Old 06-27-2011, 09:58 PM
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Can a 5 furlong race on synthetic really collapse? That's like a 3.5 furlong race on dirt.
It can when it's 2yo fillies in June.
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Old 06-27-2011, 10:28 PM
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Races for 2yo fillies in June at 5fs are won wire-to-wire at an ungodly high percentage.

When a lot of those winners come together - sure - you're going to get a fast pace.
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