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shanej974 · #1 06-21-2011, 01:38 PM

1. Bernardini
2. Rachel Alexandra

These 2 lead the overrated pack by a mile (or 8 furlongs if you prefer).

Calzone Lord · #2 06-21-2011, 01:47 PM

No, they don't.

blackthroatedwind · #3 06-21-2011, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

No, they don't.

He's a very big fan of Zenyatta and Smarty Jones.

dagolfer33 · #4 06-21-2011, 02:04 PM

Fairmount has an excellent card this afternoon, maybe we can get Alan to report on any gate malfunctions.

Indian Charlie · #5 06-21-2011, 02:26 PM

I think Bern was certainly overrated.

I'm not saying he sucked, mind you, but the hype on him was overboard.

Calzone Lord · #6 06-21-2011, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I think Bern was certainly overrated.

Yes, but the immortal Barbaro, and his one good dirt race, wasn't.

miraja2 · #7 06-21-2011, 03:10 PM

My take:

Top 5 overrated since 2000

1) Zenyatta (no-brainer here)
2) Lost in the Fog (clearly held top spot until 2 strong years of Z-nation pushed her over the top)
3) Bernardini (very talented and a productive 3yo....but people talked about him as if he had actually beaten somebody).
4) Pepper's Pride (People talked about her. Some even liked her. She didn't deserve any of it.)
5) Smarty Jones (I was a fan too....but people got carried away).

Top 5 underrated since 2000

1) Invasor - Undisputedly better than others who have received way more hype and praise.
2) Birdstone - The 2004 Belmont wasn't just some bizarre fluke. On a dry surface he was a good colt.
3) Medaglia Doro - Tended to come in second in the "big" races....but aren't the Travers, Whitney, Donn etc, also pretty big races?
4) Perfect Drift - Became an internet punch line late in his career, but he was a very good 4yo who continued to be competitive at the top level for the next 2-3 years.
5) English Channel - It will probably be awhile before another American turf horse puts together a 3-year run of that quality. Despite GPK's best efforts....I still think he's underrated.

Indian Charlie · #8 06-21-2011, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

Yes, but the immortal Barbaro, and his one good dirt race, wasn't.

His turf races all sucked too.

PatCummings · #9 06-21-2011, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shanej974

1. Bernardini
2. Rachel Alexandra

These 2 lead the overrated pack by a mile (or 8 furlongs if you prefer).

And just how was Rachel Alexandra overrated?

Calzone Lord · #10 06-21-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PatCummings

And just how was Rachel Alexandra overrated?

She was merely very fortunate she didn't run into that buzzsaw Pioneerof The Nile when he was on top of his game.

blackthroatedwind · #11 06-21-2011, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

She was merely very fortunate she didn't run into that buzzsaw Pioneerof The Nile when he was on top of his game.

She caughly him on the downslide.

slotdirt · #12 06-21-2011, 02:50 PM

I'm pretty sure Pioneerof the Nile won the Triple Crown.

Danzig · #13 06-21-2011, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by shanej974

1. Bernardini
2. Rachel Alexandra

These 2 lead the overrated pack by a mile (or 8 furlongs if you prefer).

you've got to be kidding. that list contains two of the best horses we've seen in some time. bernardini was a top 3 yo colt, it took invasor to beat him. as for rachel, her 3 yo season was phenomenal.