Chapa gets 5 year ban

[Riot]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Would it be the tracks or the state regulatory bodies requiring the testing? The reason I'm asking is that earlier you wrote, "And yeah, I would include drug testing every 3 months as part of it. For everyone who wants a license reinstated . . . ." Licenses are generally issued by the regulatory bodies.

Strange ask. Gee, why would you ask that? I'm sure you know the tracks help determine, with the governor (who they owe), who is appointed to the state racing boards, which via input from the track owners determines regulatory action by request via the state legislature in most cases.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Riot

Strange ask. Gee, why would you ask that? I'm sure you know the tracks help determine, with the governor (who they owe), who is appointed to the state racing boards, which via input from the track owners determines regulatory action by request via the state legislature in most cases.

Dr Riot.. enough said the more you post the less crediblity you have,, Have a heart..Even the worthless Rollotomasi and his blithering nonsense is startering to appear well placed. We wouldnt want that!!!!

[herkhorse]

5 years is a very long time, but this is torture.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Dr Riot.. enough said the more you post the less crediblity you have,, Have a heart..Even the worthless Rollotomasi and his blithering nonsense is startering to appear well placed. We wouldnt want that!!!!

Really? Do explain how this is wrong: The governor appoints his buddies to the racing commission, the track & horse owners try to control and influence the commission, the commission passes on to the legislature what laws or changes they want passed (which then enters the realm of legislative favors).

[herkhorse]

waterboarding

More control! More prisons! More disciprin! Respect my authorituh! Have some decorum! Slither into a judgmental, hypocritical social circle! Gossip about other people!

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Riot

Strange ask. Gee, why would you ask that? I'm sure you know the tracks help determine, with the governor (who they owe), who is appointed to the state racing boards, which via input from the track owners determines regulatory action by request via the state legislature in most cases.

Certainly you are capable of discerning the difference between what a track, typically privately owned, and an arm of the state can do.

I don't know how things are done in Kentucky, but in Louisiana, the racing commissioners more often than not have no racing experience and are often given the positions by the Governor as a show of gratitude for political favors or campaign contributions. The commissioners are pretty much in their own administrative world without much interference from the legislature.

So I ask you again, in your quest to ferret the druggies out of the buzzer users and jockeys hiding in the fog, would it be the tracks or the state regulatory bodies requiring the testing?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Certainly you are capable of discerning the difference between what a track, typically privately owned, and an arm of the state can do.

I don't know how things are done in Kentucky, but in Louisiana, the racing commissioners more often than not have no racing experience and are often given the positions by the Governor as a show of gratitude for political favors or campaign contributions. The commissioners are pretty much in their own administrative world without much interference from the legislature.

Yeah, that's what I already said, isn't it?

So I ask you again, in your quest to ferret the druggies out of the buzzer users and jockeys hiding in the fog, would it be the tracks or the state regulatory bodies requiring the testing?

Certainly, contained within your sarcasm and lack of any real point other than trying to snark at me, you are capable of understanding how current penalties within horse racing are written in each state, and that any additional penalties would simply be added via the normal process? Whatever that may be for an individual state?

And that you sound ridiculous?

Yes, I stick to my opinion that people wanting to come back to the track after five year suspensions - jock, trainer, exercise rider, groom - should have drug testing a part of their probation.

And if any states were to chose to do so, they would implement it exactly as they currently implement and outline the penalties they already have established.

That's apparently very hard for DaTruth to understand.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yeah, that's what I already said, isn't it?



Certainly, contained within your sarcasm and lack of any real point other than trying to snark at me, you are capable of understanding how current penalties within horse racing are written in each state, and that any additional penalties would simply be added via the normal process? Whatever that may be for an individual state?

And that you sound ridiculous?

Yes, I stick to my opinion that people wanting to come back to the track after five year suspensions - jock, trainer, exercise rider, groom - should have drug testing a part of their probation.

And if any states were to chose to do so, they would implement it exactly as they currently implement and outline the penalties they already have established.

That's apparently very hard for DaTruth to understand.

Good try on ducking and dodging the issue, but your drug testing idea remains patently absurd. Moreover, your ignorance is so astounding that I wonder if your state grandfathered in as licensed vets any person who could tell the difference between a cat and dog 66% of the time. Now run along to the politics section. I'm sure there is a new thread there that you have yet to comment on.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Good try on ducking and dodging the issue, but your drug testing idea remains patently absurd. Moreover, your ignorance is so astounding that I wonder if your state grandfathered in as licensed vets any person who could tell the difference between a cat and dog 66% of the time. Now run along to the politics section. I'm sure there is a new thread there that you have yet to comment on.

Insecure, defensive guys on the internet are a dime a dozen, but you've managed to make yourself stand out