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Old 06-09-2011, 12:17 PM
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Not being an expert in economic matters, I can only list measures I'd like to see, cannot say their effect on economy.
1. Restructure tax system eliminating all loop holes, folks making $30,000 a year or less would pay no tax, families with $50,000 or less likewise, all others would be taxed at 25% up to income of $200,000, 35% for rest.
2. Institute a 2 year service requirement for all folks to be served immediately upon completion of high school or 18th birthday if not in school. No exclusions unless person is deemed physically or mentally unable to care for self.
3. Mandatory reduction of salaries/bonuses/benefits for CEO's, other upper management folks, professional sports figures...nobody makes more than a million a year.
4. Legalize marijuana, to be sold in government "stores" and grown on government farms, sold at price much lower than street cost.
5. Raise salaries of folks providing health care, especially nurses, techs, and those providing direct care to those folks who are disabled, sick or elderly. Universal health care for all citizens.
6. Term limits for all political offices (except Supreme Court)...Senators...2 terms, Reps...5 terms.
1: Why 2 rates instead of one? One rate - total proportionality. No problem with the first $30,000 exempted for everybody though.

2: The service requirement would violate the 13th amendment, which banned slavery. Slavery can be defined, at a minimum, as mandatory labor without compensation, among many other bad things to go with it.

3: It is no concern of the government what individuals make in their own private enterprise. There is no maximum salary and never will be.

4: What would be the disincentive to abusing the drug? That crap is illegal for a reason. I don't want stoned airline pilots, surgeons, or accountants for that matter handling any aspect of my life. No thanks.

5: Get rid of ObamaCare and maybe the salary structure WOULD resemble more of a free market.

6: Like the term limit idea - but make both houses equal: 2 terms for senators, 6 terms for reps, so both are 12 years. 24 years total in Congress for the career politician. And those experienced people would make good presidential candidates.
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Old 06-09-2011, 12:28 PM
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4: What would be the disincentive to abusing the drug? That crap is illegal for a reason. I don't want stoned airline pilots, surgeons, or accountants for that matter handling any aspect of my life. No thanks.
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more like No thanks to your not well informed opinion. Is it legal for an airline pilot to fly while drunk? is alcohol legal? legalizing pot DEFINATELY does not mean it will be legal for your pilot to fly stoned, use some common sense.

what is not right is you having an opinion on a naturally grown plant and wanted your opinion enforced on everyone else.

and the reasons it's illegal are probably not anywhere close to the reasons YOU THINK it's illegal.
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Old 06-09-2011, 12:32 PM
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more like No thanks to your not well informed opinion. Is it legal for an airline pilot to fly while drunk? is alcohol legal? legalizing pot DEFINATELY does not mean it will be legal for your pilot to fly stoned, use some common sense.

what is not right is you having an opinion on a naturally grown plant and wanted your opinion enforced on everyone else.

and the reasons it's illegal are probably not anywhere close to the reasons YOU THINK it's illegal.
Not well informed? Tell me - what was the reason that marijuana was outlawed in the first place?

You're correct in it being a naturally occurring crop, so it must have been legal at one time. What was discovered about the side effects or the behavior brought about that made the government outlaw it, instead of just taxing the hell out of it like tobacco?
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Old 06-09-2011, 12:37 PM
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Not well informed? Tell me - what was the reason that marijuana was outlawed in the first place?
You're correct in it being a naturally occurring crop, so it must have been legal at one time. What was discovered about the side effects or the behavior brought about that made the government outlaw it, instead of just taxing the hell out of it like tobacco?
propaganda.

you should look into, Emporer wears no clothes, by Jack Herer.

and the tobacco industry is a big reason the drug is still illegal.
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and as a conservative, dont you think people should make their own choices, instead of the government making it for them?

I could understand if the arguement was against crack cociane, but alcohol and tobacco are much more harmful for people than pot, and those things are legal and regulated.
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Old 06-09-2011, 02:58 PM
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more like No thanks to your not well informed opinion. Is it legal for an airline pilot to fly while drunk? is alcohol legal? legalizing pot DEFINATELY does not mean it will be legal for your pilot to fly stoned, use some common sense.

what is not right is you having an opinion on a naturally grown plant and wanted your opinion enforced on everyone else.

and the reasons it's illegal are probably not anywhere close to the reasons YOU THINK it's illegal.

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