NBA Playoffs

clyde · #1 05-26-2011, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

In essence their fate was sealed the first offseason with LeBron. they were still a lottery team and had a legit number two guy in Boozer. They thought they had an agreement with Boozer to extend and then fiasco ensued and he left. That combined with them drafting Luke Jackson from Oregon with their lottery pick was pretty much it. I'd have to go back and see who they could have gotten with that pick, but it was one of the worst picks in NBA history. From that point on they never got high draft picks and they actually got serviceable players in Shannon Brown and JJ Hickson from some of those but they were not difference makers like you get picking high. It became a desperate search to find mainly stationary 3 point shooters to compliment LeBron through a series of trades and bad free agents. I think they did the best they could with what they were working with. And the Boozer fiasco and Luke Jackson occurred pre-Giilbert. And that was the precursar of everything.

HC..you are trying to have horseofcourse discourse with a yammering goof.

Move on to someone without petty jealously in their noodle.

Dahoss · #2 05-26-2011, 08:01 PM

Touchy touchy.

King Glorious · #3 05-26-2011, 10:24 PM

Guess I was wrong. I thought that if Chicago got up 12+, they would be able to barely hold on. Great comeback by Miami. Wade and James came up HUGE. HUGE. I wonder if all of the idiots talking about James can't finish games will shut up? Same ones talking about Dirk can't do it. Now, one of the "losers" will be a champion. My two favorite players. I love it.

dalakhani · #4 05-26-2011, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Guess I was wrong. I thought that if Chicago got up 12+, they would be able to barely hold on. Great comeback by Miami. Wade and James came up HUGE. HUGE. I wonder if all of the idiots talking about James can't finish games will shut up? Same ones talking about Dirk can't do it. Now, one of the "losers" will be a champion. My two favorite players. I love it.

Not taking away anything from Miami but the bulls are some chokes. Derrick rose is a choke.

Cannon Shell · #5 05-26-2011, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

Not taking away anything from Miami but the bulls are some chokes. Derrick rose is a choke.

Really? What is Rose supposed to do? If he passes to one of the dwarfs he gets killed. He clearly had no other options than to try to force it against the best defender in the league.

I made a prediction after they signed Boozer that a few years down the line they will regret it. I was wrong, they must already regret it.

Wade and James made some unbelievable shots down the stretch, there was nothing outside of fouling them that anyone could have done about that.

Dahoss · #6 05-26-2011, 10:49 PM

That missed free throw at the end was kind of a killer though. Very reminiscient of the NCAA championship game.

Rose also fouled Wade on his 3 point and 4 point play at the end of the game.

He's an amazing player that is too spread out right now. He needs some help. They wouldn't even have been in the game without him, but he didn't make the plays at the end and Wade and LeDouche did.

Cannon Shell · #7 05-26-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

That missed free throw at the end was kind of a killer though. Very reminiscient of the NCAA championship game.

Rose also fouled Wade on his 3 point and 4 point play at the end of the game.

He's an amazing player that is too spread out right now. He needs some help. They wouldn't even have been in the game without him, but he didn't make the plays at the end and Wade and LeDouche did.

It was a big miss but I wont kill him for the foul on Wade. Chicago needs another option though those are harder to find than people think. The Bulls should get better with the experience but i still have nagging feeling that the Boozer deal will become an albatross.

dalakhani · #8 05-27-2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Really? What is Rose supposed to do? If he passes to one of the dwarfs he gets killed. He clearly had no other options than to try to force it against the best defender in the league.

I made a prediction after they signed Boozer that a few years down the line they will regret it. I was wrong, they must already regret it.

Wade and James made some unbelievable shots down the stretch, there was nothing outside of fouling them that anyone could have done about that.

I don't consider the last shot a choke although they were clearly unprepared as a team. As point guard and leader, he has to take control there. What would Isaiah have done there?

The missed free throw was tough. Didn't he miss one down the stretch the other night as well?

How about the turnover inside of a minute? Your pg and best player can't turn it over like that at that point in the game.

They looked scared as a team and it looked that way pretty much the entire series after game 1.

Dahoss · #9 05-26-2011, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Guess I was wrong. I thought that if Chicago got up 12+, they would be able to barely hold on. Great comeback by Miami. Wade and James came up HUGE. HUGE. I wonder if all of the idiots talking about James can't finish games will shut up? Same ones talking about Dirk can't do it. Now, one of the "losers" will be a champion. My two favorite players. I love it.

Congrats...I guess.

King Glorious · #10 05-26-2011, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss

Congrats...I guess.

Not to me. I just got lucky picking them.

Dalakhani, did you check out the play with 58 seconds to go, after James hit the three to tie it? Rose had it top of the key and they moved him over a little to the right and ran a pick and roll with Thomas. Didn't work. Bosh steps out on the pick and by him showing, it gives James a chance to get back over so now Rose has got James and Bosh guarding him and that's too much size. If they try to run it with Deng or another small, Wade is quick and athletic enough to switch and Miami doesn't lose a beat. The best chance for the Bulls in those situations is a 1-4 set and get out of his way and let him try to get to the basket. You don't want any other defenders up there congesting things.

dalakhani · #11 05-27-2011, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Not to me. I just got lucky picking them.

Dalakhani, did you check out the play with 58 seconds to go, after James hit the three to tie it? Rose had it top of the key and they moved him over a little to the right and ran a pick and roll with Thomas. Didn't work. Bosh steps out on the pick and by him showing, it gives James a chance to get back over so now Rose has got James and Bosh guarding him and that's too much size. If they try to run it with Deng or another small, Wade is quick and athletic enough to switch and Miami doesn't lose a beat. The best chance for the Bulls in those situations is a 1-4 set and get out of his way and let him try to get to the basket. You don't want any other defenders up there congesting things.

You know KG that a pick and roll is only going to be as good as the screener. Thomas is too slow to have to worry about the cut to the basket. If Boozer were in the game, that's where i would have run it but either way Rose shouldn't have turned it over there.

I agree with the 1-4...if you don'thave time and if they were playing Rose with even a shred of honesty. They weren't and that's why they needed to run something in my opinion. All moot now.

Should be a fun finals.