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Old 05-22-2011, 09:18 AM
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i'm just glad the assman horse didn't win. i like shackleford, good for him that he could hold on. he impressed me in florida and showed yesterday that he belonged.

but man, not much of a cast of characters this year.


does animal kingdom move back to turf? i don't see him running in three weeks. i just hope he does't turn out like another mine that bird, who also ran second in the preakness after a surprise win in ky.
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:41 PM
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i'm just glad the assman horse didn't win. i like shackleford, good for him that he could hold on. he impressed me in florida and showed yesterday that he belonged.

but man, not much of a cast of characters this year.


does animal kingdom move back to turf? i don't see him running in three weeks. i just hope he does't turn out like another mine that bird, who also ran second in the preakness after a surprise win in ky.
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...50-for-belmont

Looks like they could both end up in the race. Not definite, just possible. I was fully expecting to get the news that neither was moving forward, so I'm pleasantly surprised.
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Old 05-22-2011, 03:02 PM
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i am hopeful that the two both go to the belmont. it's tiring to have people avoid each other much of the year.

also, who is shackleford's owner? i'm not familiar with him at all.
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Old 05-22-2011, 03:21 PM
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does animal kingdom move back to turf? i don't see him running in three weeks. i just hope he does't turn out like another mine that bird, who also ran second in the preakness after a surprise win in ky.
I can't see why Animal Kingdom would not run back in the Belmont if he comes back out of the race ok. He had 6 weeks off before the Derby so a run back in 3 weeks should be no problem. Certainly the distance is not an issue.

The Preakness was only his second start on dirt and he lost because a bad break put him too far back. I believe that he is a much better horse than Mine That Bird and there is no reason to believe that he can't be a top three year old on dirt going forward. Considering that he can run on all three surfaces, he should have quite a future as long as he stays on the track.

As for Shackleford's owner, consult Root.
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Old 05-22-2011, 08:17 PM
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Yikes Mike! I think we'd need to bring Bill Maher in to handle that...
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i'm just glad the assman horse didn't win. i like shackleford, good for him that he could hold on. he impressed me in florida and showed yesterday that he belonged.

but man, not much of a cast of characters this year.


does animal kingdom move back to turf? i don't see him running in three weeks. i just hope he does't turn out like another mine that bird, who also ran second in the preakness after a surprise win in ky.
Your ignorance never ceases to amaze me......
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Old 05-22-2011, 10:12 PM
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you know, vol, i'm not quite sure what i did, and when, to provoke you...but i'm really wishing whatever it was hadn't happened. animal kingdom came into ky off most folks radar, with a pedigree that screams turf. he still has more starts off dirt than on. he had a great win, and a nice run again saturday. my wondering about the belmont had more to do with the fact that most owners shy away from repeated attempts at top competition. that with a loss, he doesn't have to run in ny.

i'm hoping he continues in the top races the rest of the year, but he's certainly shown an ability on all surfaces. honestly, i'd like turf stars to start getting more respect. it shouldn't be considered a lesser type of event should they choose to put him back on what may ultimately be his best surface.
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I'd say there is no way Animal Kingdom moves back to turf, when he's basically showed the past 2 weeks that hes one of, if not the best 3 year old on dirt. Dirt is where the money and fame is.
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Old 05-23-2011, 08:10 PM
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I'd say there is no way Animal Kingdom moves back to turf, when he's basically showed the past 2 weeks that hes one of, if not the best 3 year old on dirt. Dirt is where the money and fame is.
yeah, i know it. it's funny tho, when you have a big dirt horse-people want them to try turf. remember when people were saying zenyatta should run there? or curlin's attempts there?
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Old 05-24-2011, 02:30 AM
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yeah, i know it. it's funny tho, when you have a big dirt horse-people want them to try turf. remember when people were saying zenyatta should run there? or curlin's attempts there?
Zenyatta's half-sister by Henrythenavigator's going to Ireland apparently. I guess someone in the family's gonna give turf a go.
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Zenyatta's half-sister by Henrythenavigator's going to Ireland apparently. I guess someone in the family's gonna give turf a go.
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...-straight.aspx
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:21 PM
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Zenyatta was a big dirt horse?


i suppose i should have typed 'main track horse'.

at any rate, here's hoping for some great racing to follow this past saturday. i think we're all tired of people avoiding each other for much of the year, with abbreviated campaigns and months between starts.
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:25 PM
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i was reminded of this thread when i read an article yesterday in which graham motion said this of animal kingdom:


Though Animal Kingdom's future depends on his ownership team, Motion promised, "No matter what happens Saturday, I believe you'll hear more of this horse. Winning the Derby on dirt was a bonus for us. His future is clearly on grass."

too bad that the start cost him today; you'd have to think he'd have at least hit the board if he'd had a clean break. now, what's next for the derby winner?
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