Newt Gingrich! for President! 2012 !

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Newt's going no where. Once he made the mistake of somehow agreeing with Obamacare or anything related to it, he was done.

None of this had anything to do with the PPACA. This had nothing to do with any Democratic plans, or Democrats at all. It had to do with the Republican budget plan passed by the House. Have you not watched the news at all this past week?

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

None of this had anything to do with the PPACA. This had nothing to do with any Democratic plans, or Democrats at all. It had to do with the Republican budget plan passed by the House. Have you not watched the news at all this past week?

When he said he agreed americans should be 'forced' to buy health insurance he was done.

When he made a fool of himself by trashing Paul Ryan he just finished digging the hole.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

When he said he agreed americans should be 'forced' to buy health insurance he was done.

When he made a fool of himself by trashing Paul Ryan he just finished digging the hole.

American's being "forced" to buy health insurance was a huge Republican plan in the 1990's. Nearly all Republicans supported this until Obama was elected. Not wanting all Americans to have health care is a "new" GOP position, just in the past couple-three years. They always strongly pushed for it, and health care for all was always a part of the Republican platform.

He never had a chance, but I wish he was around for nostalgia's and counterpoint's sake. He will be until Iowa, I think. I agree, it shows how much the Republican party has changed in the past 15 years. I could not believe how fast they ate him alive. That is scary for this country.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

American's being "forced" to buy health insurance was a huge Republican plan in the 1990's. Nearly all Republicans supported this until Obama was elected. Not wanting all Americans to have health care is a "new" GOP position, just in the past couple-three years. They always strongly pushed for it, and health care for all was always a part of the Republican platform..

Look I like Republicans want all Americans to have health insurance. In fact I want everyone to have a home and job as well. I'm just a realist and know this is impossible unless some Americans are 'forced' to pay for others. Stop listening to Huffingon. It was Hillarycare in the 90's and she is no republican.

A person right now can go into an ER room with a broken leg, have it set, get a few pain pills, and he's gone. Yes we pick it up in inflated bills. Wth Obamacare that same person now with an insurance card paid for by you and I will go in, maybe have a second opinion, possibly a scan, be prescribed therapy, more pain pills and a second x-ray to make sure the bone has healed. 2K v. maybe 8K. And that's a minor scenario. Also should you or I have a broken bone at the same time we'll have the chance to wait in line behind this newly insured person. Sorry many are able to see this is not a way to right the ship instead it's akin to pulling the drain plug.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Look I like Republicans want all Americans to have health insurance. In fact I want everyone to have a home and job as well. I'm just a realist and know this is impossible unless some Americans are 'forced' to pay for others. Stop listening to Huffingon. It was Hillarycare in the 90's and she is no republican.

No. Republicans in the 1990's (and before) were always in favor of universal health care. Check out their party platforms. They were strongly for it right up until the time a Democrat beat them to it and got something passed in 2010.

And yes, Dell, we all pay for others now - can you simply not understand this reality?

A person right now can go into an ER room with a broken leg, have it set, get a few pain pills, and he's gone. Yes we pick it up in inflated bills. Wth Obamacare that same person now with an insurance card paid for by you and I will go in, maybe have a second opinion, possibly a scan, be prescribed therapy, more pain pills and a second x-ray to make sure the bone has healed. 2K v. maybe 8K.

No. That is a ridiculous, imaginary scenario. That is not how our health care system works now.

Also should you or I have a broken bone at the same time we'll have the chance to wait in line behind this newly insured person.

To say nothing of the unbelievable statement that you want to begrudge another human health insurance because you might be inconvenienced.

"Obamacare" is in effect now. Tell me how you've suffered.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

"Obamacare" is in effect now. Tell me how you've suffered.

As I said my insurance went up not down not to mention I've been prejudiced against, as I have no waiver.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Riot

Republicans in the 1990's (and before) were always in favor of universal health care.

If that's true, how do you explain 1993?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by miraja2

If that's true, how do you explain 1993?

Politics. And Hilary's involvement. None of them can stand the other parties success. If Teddy Kennedy hadn't freaked out about it not being aggressive enough, we'd all have had Richard Nixon's mandated health care from our employers years ago. As it is, much of what ended up in the PPACA has plenty of Republican history and previous recommendation. They can't stand that a Dem finally gets credit for passing something (because most of us realize the PPACA isn't any aggressive or major "socalized medicine" overhaul. It's some tweeks to administration by private companies, in an effort to simply better provide consumer protections to people within the current system)

It's strange, what the GOP has turned into, in the past 5-6 years. Very bizzaro.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

None of this had anything to do with the PPACA. This had nothing to do with any Democratic plans, or Democrats at all. It had to do with the Republican budget plan passed by the House. Have you not watched the news at all this past week?

Blame it on the Republicans like you always do. I'm pretty confident that if the budget wasn't passed the Dems would put all the blame on the Republicans like they always do. Didn't the Dems control both the House and Senate when the budget should of been passed months ago?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Blame it on the Republicans like you always do. I'm pretty confident that if the budget wasn't passed the Dems would put all the blame on the Republicans like they always do. Didn't the Dems control both the House and Senate when the budget should of been passed months ago?

You are the most remarkably uncomprehending adult person I've ever seen.

Can you read above a 3rd grade level?

This discussion is about the Republican candidate Newt Gingrich, and the public discussions within the Republican party this past week about Gingrich's public policy statements.

I don't know what you are yammering on about, but it's not about this.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

You are the most remarkably uncomprehending adult person I've ever seen.

Can you read above a 3rd grade level?

This discussion is about the Republican candidate Newt Gingrich, and the public discussions within the Republican party this past week about Gingrich's public policy statements.

I don't know what you are yammering on about, but it's not about this.

GFY you wench

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

GFY you wench

You are of quite limited communication skills.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

You are of quite limited communication skills.

Guess the truth hurts you. You seem to use GFY a lot. You must also have limited communication skills. Guess it is ok for use to use it excessively but good old Nascar can't. Cry to someone who really cares.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Guess the truth hurts you. You seem to use GFY a lot.

No, I rarely use that phrase. You just find it directed against you quite frequently.