Top Ten Preakness Moments

RolloTomasi · #1 05-17-2011, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone

For me personally, Curlin over Street Sense is Top 3. What a performance after getting passed & an awesome call by Dave Rodman.

Street Sense hung like a cheap suit, just as he did in half his starts at 2 and every start beyond 9f at 3.

philcski · #2 05-17-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Street Sense hung like a cheap suit, just as he did in half his starts at 2 and every start beyond 9f at 3.

I didn't know the Derby and Travers were both 9F.

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Originally Posted by ddthetide

the Move and the Stumble.

1,2 in my book.

RolloTomasi · #3 05-17-2011, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

I didn't know the Derby and Travers were both 9F.

They're not. Those races are 10f, but you can hang and still win. On paper and at the 1/4 pole, Street Sense was poised to win the Travers by open lengths. He won by a desperate neck, leaning in, and swapping back to his left lead through the stretch. The Derby wasn't so bad, but again, he should have won by more, but came over 2 paths and started leaning on the rail through the stretch (and also swapped backed to his left lead) with Hard Spun--the pacesetter--inching back after him.

freddymo · #4 05-17-2011, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

They're not. Those races are 10f, but you can hang and still win. On paper and at the 1/4 pole, Street Sense was poised to win the Travers by open lengths. He won by a desperate neck, leaning in, and swapping back to his left lead through the stretch. The Derby wasn't so bad, but again, he should have won by more, but came over 2 paths and started leaning on the rail through the stretch (and also swapped backed to his left lead) with Hard Spun--the pacesetter--inching back after him.

Are you comfortable suggesting that a horses winning perfornance should be downgrade because they dont win by more? Oh g-d, its worse then I feared, Call House maybe the diaherra is just some bad sushi but seriously I am worried..

RolloTomasi · #5 05-17-2011, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Are you comfortable suggesting that a horses winning perfornance should be downgrade because they dont win by more?

If the winning horse loses ground and looks vulnerable late, isn't that a rather obvious conclusion to draw?

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Oh g-d, its worse then I feared, Call House maybe the diaherra is just some bad sushi but seriously I am worried..

I don't get your grammar here. Are you saying you ate diarrhea that tastes like sushi or vice versa?

If it's the former, what's the name of the restaurant?

The Porcelain Bowl?

philcski · #6 05-17-2011, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

They're not. Those races are 10f, but you can hang and still win. On paper and at the 1/4 pole, Street Sense was poised to win the Travers by open lengths. He won by a desperate neck, leaning in, and swapping back to his left lead through the stretch. The Derby wasn't so bad, but again, he should have won by more, but came over 2 paths and started leaning on the rail through the stretch (and also swapped backed to his left lead) with Hard Spun--the pacesetter--inching back after him.

I think you're being overly and unfairly critical. Horse won the Kentucky Derby with an explosive move and beat two great horses in doing it and you're trying to prove your incorrect assessment by devaluing it.

He definitively hung in two races- both over the poly garbage at KEE. Those don't count against him because they were caused by the surface. It's a completely absurd and unfair racing surface.

blackthroatedwind · #7 05-17-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

I think you're being overly and unfairly critical. Horse won the Kentucky Derby with an explosive move and beat two great horses in doing it and you're trying to prove your incorrect assessment by devaluing it.

He definitively hung in two races- both over the poly garbage at KEE. Those don't count against him because they were caused by the surface. It's a completely absurd and unfair racing surface.

Remind me who the two " great " horses were in that KY Derby.

He hung in the Breeder's Futurity? I think you might want to watch that race again.

RolloTomasi · #8 05-17-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

I think you're being overly and unfairly critical. Horse won the Kentucky Derby with an explosive move and beat two great horses in doing it and you're trying to prove your incorrect assessment by devaluing it.

Interesting. Saying that Street Sense didn't look good finishing up in his Derby victory is "incorrect" and "unfairly critical". How does his Preakness effort jive with my assessment?

I guess there's always a chance that Curlin improved 7 lengths in 2 weeks or that Calvin Borel thought the 1/16th pole was the finish line...