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smuthg 05-17-2011 05:25 PM

Top Ten Preakness Moments
 
pretty good list... the "Move" is absolutely amazing.

http://www.drf.com/news/top-10-preakness-stakes-moments

ninetoone 05-17-2011 05:35 PM

For me personally, Curlin over Street Sense is Top 3. What a performance after getting passed & an awesome call by Dave Rodman.

trackrat59 05-17-2011 05:58 PM

The Move::eek::tro::{>:

RolloTomasi 05-17-2011 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone (Post 777006)
For me personally, Curlin over Street Sense is Top 3. What a performance after getting passed & an awesome call by Dave Rodman.

Street Sense hung like a cheap suit, just as he did in half his starts at 2 and every start beyond 9f at 3.

ddthetide 05-17-2011 07:35 PM

the Move and the Stumble. :tro:

philcski 05-17-2011 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 777028)
Street Sense hung like a cheap suit, just as he did in half his starts at 2 and every start beyond 9f at 3.

I didn't know the Derby and Travers were both 9F.

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Originally Posted by ddthetide (Post 777029)
the Move and the Stumble. :tro:

1,2 in my book.

RolloTomasi 05-17-2011 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by smuthg (Post 776998)
pretty good list... the "Move" is absolutely amazing.

http://www.drf.com/news/top-10-preakness-stakes-moments

Leave it to Jay Hovdey to gush about the 1997 Preakness and completely ignore the performance of Touch Gold who traded a chunk of dirt in the face for a chunk of his hoof when he went to his knees--jockey cam in tow--at the start. Recovered to make a threatening bid inside only to run into some traffic while finishing just in behind the blanket finishers.

At least he didn't mention flavor-of-the-week Barry Irwin, who owned 3rd place finisher Captain Bodgit. Not sure if Dale Capuano is one of the dreaded "liars".

VOL JACK 05-17-2011 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 777028)
Street Sense hung like a cheap suit, just as he did in half his starts at 2 and every start beyond 9f at 3.

The Ky Derby is 10f.

blackthroatedwind 05-17-2011 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 777031)
Leave it to Jay Hovdey to gush about the 1997 Preakness and completely ignore the performance of Touch Gold who traded a chunk of dirt in the face for a chunk of his hoof when he went to his knees--jockey cam in tow--at the start. Recovered to make a threatening bid inside only to run into some traffic while finishing just in behind the blanket finishers.

At least he didn't mention flavor-of-the-week Barry Irwin, who owned 3rd place finisher Captain Bodgit. Not sure if Dale Capuano is one of the dreaded "liars".

I would say " even for Hovdey that's embarrassing " but we're so far past that concept that this article is just more of the same.

He would have " remembered " the truth if Julie rode Touch Gold.

RolloTomasi 05-17-2011 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 777030)
I didn't know the Derby and Travers were both 9F.

They're not. Those races are 10f, but you can hang and still win. On paper and at the 1/4 pole, Street Sense was poised to win the Travers by open lengths. He won by a desperate neck, leaning in, and swapping back to his left lead through the stretch. The Derby wasn't so bad, but again, he should have won by more, but came over 2 paths and started leaning on the rail through the stretch (and also swapped backed to his left lead) with Hard Spun--the pacesetter--inching back after him.

freddymo 05-17-2011 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 777034)
They're not. Those races are 10f, but you can hang and still win. On paper and at the 1/4 pole, Street Sense was poised to win the Travers by open lengths. He won by a desperate neck, leaning in, and swapping back to his left lead through the stretch. The Derby wasn't so bad, but again, he should have won by more, but came over 2 paths and started leaning on the rail through the stretch (and also swapped backed to his left lead) with Hard Spun--the pacesetter--inching back after him.


Are you comfortable suggesting that a horses winning perfornance should be downgrade because they dont win by more? Oh g-d, its worse then I feared, Call House maybe the diaherra is just some bad sushi but seriously I am worried..

RolloTomasi 05-17-2011 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 777033)
He would have " remembered " the truth if Julie rode Touch Gold.

Can't wait for his Belmont Stakes Top Ten.

I wonder if he'll mention the whip count Mrs. Hovdey unleashed on Colonial Affair through the stretch of his open length victory.

blackthroatedwind 05-17-2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 777037)
Can't wait for his Belmont Stakes Top Ten.

I wonder if he'll mention the whip count Mrs. Hovdey unleashed on Colonial Affair through the stretch of his open length victory.

I just hope Secretariat can top Julie winning the Belmont. I also hope he remembers to mention Colonial Affair.

RolloTomasi 05-17-2011 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 777036)
Are you comfortable suggesting that a horses winning perfornance should be downgrade because they dont win by more?

If the winning horse loses ground and looks vulnerable late, isn't that a rather obvious conclusion to draw?

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Oh g-d, its worse then I feared, Call House maybe the diaherra is just some bad sushi but seriously I am worried..
I don't get your grammar here. Are you saying you ate diarrhea that tastes like sushi or vice versa?

If it's the former, what's the name of the restaurant?

The Porcelain Bowl?

RolloTomasi 05-17-2011 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK (Post 777032)
The Ky Derby is 10f.

So is the Travers.

philcski 05-17-2011 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 777034)
They're not. Those races are 10f, but you can hang and still win. On paper and at the 1/4 pole, Street Sense was poised to win the Travers by open lengths. He won by a desperate neck, leaning in, and swapping back to his left lead through the stretch. The Derby wasn't so bad, but again, he should have won by more, but came over 2 paths and started leaning on the rail through the stretch (and also swapped backed to his left lead) with Hard Spun--the pacesetter--inching back after him.

I think you're being overly and unfairly critical. Horse won the Kentucky Derby with an explosive move and beat two great horses in doing it and you're trying to prove your incorrect assessment by devaluing it.

He definitively hung in two races- both over the poly garbage at KEE. Those don't count against him because they were caused by the surface. It's a completely absurd and unfair racing surface.

blackthroatedwind 05-17-2011 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski (Post 777043)
I think you're being overly and unfairly critical. Horse won the Kentucky Derby with an explosive move and beat two great horses in doing it and you're trying to prove your incorrect assessment by devaluing it.

He definitively hung in two races- both over the poly garbage at KEE. Those don't count against him because they were caused by the surface. It's a completely absurd and unfair racing surface.

Remind me who the two " great " horses were in that KY Derby.

He hung in the Breeder's Futurity? I think you might want to watch that race again.

RolloTomasi 05-17-2011 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski (Post 777043)
I think you're being overly and unfairly critical. Horse won the Kentucky Derby with an explosive move and beat two great horses in doing it and you're trying to prove your incorrect assessment by devaluing it.

Interesting. Saying that Street Sense didn't look good finishing up in his Derby victory is "incorrect" and "unfairly critical". How does his Preakness effort jive with my assessment?

I guess there's always a chance that Curlin improved 7 lengths in 2 weeks or that Calvin Borel thought the 1/16th pole was the finish line...

miraja2 05-17-2011 09:20 PM

1989 checks in at #9?

Ridiculous.

Absolutely has to be in the top 3 for the list to have any merit whatsoever.

Alan07 05-17-2011 09:25 PM

Nice to see a color screening of the '62 Preakness. :tro:


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