Barry Irwin

[Kasept]

Trainers respond to Irwin's comment about lying
By David Grening

Catalano said he called Irwin on Sunday to congratulate him for winning the Derby but also to clarify that those comments weren’t directed toward him. "I know 100 percent it wasn't toward me," Catalano said by phone from Chicago. "I never had a cross word with the guy."

Many New York horsemen were disgusted by Irwin’s nationally televised remarks, but few wanted to go on the record with their comments. Kiaran McLaughlin, who did train briefly for Irwin and Team Valor, was offended by the remark. "I can promise you and anyone else that I never lied to Barry Irwin," McLaughlin said Monday morning at Belmont Park. "And I don’t appreciate that comment for our whole industry, all the trainers that have trained for him – I don’t feel so bad because it’s a large group and obviously we’re not all liars. “It took away from the day and the sport and it was uncalled for,” McLaughlin said. “I was very happy for Graham Motion and Johnny Velazquez.”

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Trainers respond to Irwin's comment about lying
By David Grening

Catalano said he called Irwin on Sunday to congratulate him for winning the Derby but also to clarify that those comments weren’t directed toward him. "I know 100 percent it wasn't toward me," Catalano said by phone from Chicago. "I never had a cross word with the guy."

Many New York horsemen were disgusted by Irwin’s nationally televised remarks, but few wanted to go on the record with their comments. Kiaran McLaughlin, who did train briefly for Irwin and Team Valor, was offended by the remark. "I can promise you and anyone else that I never lied to Barry Irwin," McLaughlin said Monday morning at Belmont Park. "And I don’t appreciate that comment for our whole industry, all the trainers that have trained for him – I don’t feel so bad because it’s a large group and obviously we’re not all liars. “It took away from the day and the sport and it was uncalled for,” McLaughlin said. “I was very happy for Graham Motion and Johnny Velazquez.”

phuck him this guy has pitched his swill on partners forever.. Even if you get it and are delivering great result you should be a mensch.. The guy is all that is wrong, between him and John Fort I wanted to throw up..

[Cannon Shell]

The funny thing is the guy can't understand why no one likes him

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

The funny thing is the guy can't understand why no one likes him

The 40pt chop is a killer

[jms62]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The 40pt chop is a killer

Freddie Mo our resident code talker

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Trainers respond to Irwin's comment about lying
By David Grening

Catalano said he called Irwin on Sunday to congratulate him for winning the Derby but also to clarify that those comments weren’t directed toward him. "I know 100 percent it wasn't toward me," Catalano said by phone from Chicago. "I never had a cross word with the guy."

Many New York horsemen were disgusted by Irwin’s nationally televised remarks, but few wanted to go on the record with their comments. Kiaran McLaughlin, who did train briefly for Irwin and Team Valor, was offended by the remark. "I can promise you and anyone else that I never lied to Barry Irwin," McLaughlin said Monday morning at Belmont Park. "And I don’t appreciate that comment for our whole industry, all the trainers that have
trained for him – I don’t feel so bad because it’s a large group and obviously we’re not all liars. “It took away from the day and the sport and it was uncalled for,” McLaughlin said. “I was very happy for Graham Motion and Johnny Velazquez.”

I have mixed emotions about this guy's remarks. I absolutely understand, on a personal level, his frustration with disingenuous trainers. Let's not pretend it doesn't exist....a lot! Was it the wrong time and place? Maybe. Probably. But the intention to shed light on a decades old problem to a national audience is somewhat intriguing. He opened himself up to criticism of his alleged business practices.

[tector]

Back in the day he used to post on the AOL horsey forums.

An ass.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by tector

Back in the day he used to post on the AOL horsey forums.

An ass.

He invited me to the Clubhouse at HP one fine, hot 130 degree summer day. He really does have no filter for what he says. I couldn't believe the things he was saying about Baffert, and Vladimir Syringe. He was bitter about Silver Charm winning the Derby, putting it mildly.

I showed up in a tshirt riddled with holes and blood stains along with a pair of gray gym shorts. I was out of place!

Never was invited back, for some reason.

[Patrick333]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Trainers respond to Irwin's comment about lying
By David Grening

Many New York horsemen were disgusted by Irwin’s nationally televised remarks, but few wanted to go on the record with their comments. Kiaran McLaughlin, who did train briefly for Irwin and Team Valor, was offended by the remark. "I can promise you and anyone else that I never lied to Barry Irwin," McLaughlin said Monday morning at Belmont Park. "And I don’t appreciate that comment for our whole industry, all the trainers that have trained for him – I don’t feel so bad because it’s a large group and obviously we’re not all liars. “It took away from the day and the sport and it was uncalled for,” McLaughlin said. “I was very happy for Graham Motion and Johnny Velazquez.”

Hats off to Kiaran.

[tector]

If IC says someone has no filter, THEY HAVE NO FILTER.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by tector

If IC says someone has no filter, THEY HAVE NO FILTER.

Truer words......

It is something I identify with easily, thus it is easy for me to recognize.

[The Bid]

Irwin has always done a good job for his partners. They manage their horses correctly and do a pretty good job picking up nice horses at reasonable prices. There's a reason a group like Team Valor is so successful, it starts w BI. Like or hate the guy he gives his people a good bang for their buck. As a partnership goes they are probably top of the foodchain.

He may come accross like a knowitall, but he's probably seen it all, and I'm sure he's speaking from experience.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Irwin has always done a good job for his partners. They manage their horses correctly and do a pretty good job picking up nice horses at reasonable prices. There's a reason a group like Team Valor is so successful, it starts w BI. Like or hate the guy he gives his people a good bang for their buck. As a partnership goes they are probably top of the foodchain.

He may come accross like a knowitall, but he's probably seen it all, and I'm sure he's speaking from experience.

There's a LOT of people involved with the sport, just like that! don't dare question them.....they're NEVER wrong!

[The Bid]

They usually know that's why they are in the positions they are in HHH

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Irwin has always done a good job for his partners. They manage their horses correctly and do a pretty good job picking up nice horses at reasonable prices. There's a reason a group like Team Valor is so successful, it starts w BI. Like or hate the guy he gives his people a good bang for their buck. As a partnership goes they are probably top of the foodchain.

He may come accross like a knowitall, but he's probably seen it all, and I'm sure he's speaking from experience.

No one is denying that Irwin does a good job. But humble or likable he is not.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Truer words......

It is something I identify with easily, thus it is easy for me to recognize.

Hey IC!

My older sister is moving to Maine. She's the "fuller-figured" member of the family -- want me to hook you up?!?

I hope you're tall though, she's 6 feet tall.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Hey IC!

My older sister is moving to Maine. She's the "fuller-figured" member of the family -- want me to hook you up?!?

I hope you're tall though, she's 6 feet tall.

lol.

DrugS exaggerates. The person is what is important to me. Though, I gotta say, I do like tall chicks.

Why is she moving to Maine, and where? If you ever go visit her, let me know. Believe it or not, Maine is a great state for foodies.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

lol.

DrugS exaggerates. The person is what is important to me. Though, I gotta say, I do like tall chicks.

Why is she moving to Maine, and where? If you ever go visit her, let me know. Believe it or not, Maine is a great state for foodies.

Work, Southern Maine. The only person I know who has lived in more states than me!

The coastline is probably much better than down here too.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Believe it or not, Maine is a great state for foodies.

I'm a believer. I have several friends in Maine, from Rockland to Waterville to Bangor. I visit Maine whenever I can, which isn't often enough. I would spend my summers there if I didn't have to work. I Maine.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Patrick333

Hats off to Kiaran.