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[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

Far better they buy their own insurance .

Far better for them to buy a house and car as well and I'm not interested in paying for that either.

If they were actually buying their own insurance great. But the thought of a patient who was subsized by a patient waiting behind him is wrong. This is nothing but a scheme for socialized medicine for all using the private sector as the caregiver.

[somerfrost]

Riot, this is useless....some folks are so afraid that they might actually help someone in need that they are blinded to facts.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Riot, this is useless....we are so smart and the rest of them are so stupid, remember we are better than everyone else. Just ask us.

FTFY

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by geeker2

FTFY

You can debate me, you can call me names but don't bastardize my words, you don't know me and you can pander to the opinions of others all you want but in the end assuming you can see into someone soul is the definition of arrogance. Perhaps you should take a long look in the mirror yourself.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

You can debate me, you can call me names but don't bastardize my words, you don't know me and you can pander to the opinions of others all you want but in the end assuming you can see into someone soul is the definition of arrogance. Perhaps you should take a long look in the mirror yourself.

Ror !! You should check your condescending attitude at the log -in.

Your wordsmithing is so lame...get over yourself please!

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by geeker2

Ror !! You should check your condescending attitude at the log -in.

Your wordsmithing is so lame...get over yourself please!

Because I disagree with your world view, instead of debating the substance, you personally attack me...and you call me "condescending"...your posts are the essence of that! Get over your own self! If you knew anything about me, you'd know how ridiculous your accusations are...I could personally care less but your posts are nothing more than pandering...phony and without insight or merit.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Because I disagree with your world view, instead of debating the substance, you personally attack me...and you call me "condescending"...your posts are the essence of that! Get over your own self! If you knew anything about me, you'd know how ridiculous your accusations are...I could personally care less but your posts are nothing more than pandering...phony and without insight or merit.

Yeah that is what you are doing "debating the substance". Take your lame act elsewhere - it's transparent to all.

Oh I guess except to you.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by geeker2

FTFY

Don't make up outright lies about my views, Geeker.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Far better for them to buy a house and car as well and I'm not interested in paying for that either.

If they were actually buying their own insurance great. But the thought of a patient who was subsized by a patient waiting behind him is wrong. This is nothing but a scheme for socialized medicine for all using the private sector as the caregiver.

thing is, you have been subsidizing patients for years. why do you think medical costs are so high? because the insured have been supplementing the uninsured for years and years. they can't pay, so we pay extra-because the medical providers must get money from somewhere. so, non-payers get written off because those of us who can pay do-plenty.

the overall cost of insurance goes down to those who have when more people buy in. if everyone bought, the overall cost per policy would go down.


on the flip side of this-forcing insurers to carry high risk patients will swell the costs for the rest of us. they cost a lot because they get a lot more care, so once again the cost is spread to everyone. so is the cost of keeping kids on their parents tab til 26. it would have been better if a high risk plan was put in place-much like there is car insurance for high risk drivers-they pay thru the nose, rather than everyone paying thru the nose.


it's not a perfect plan-i've always wondered how you can force folks to buy insurance, i guess we're going to see if that can happen.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Danzig

thing is, you have been subsidizing patients for years. why do you think medical costs are so high? because the insured have been supplementing the uninsured for years and years.

A worthy effort Danzig, but del and the boys have had this very important point explained to them countless times over the course of this debate. It has no effect. They can't refute it of course, but they do a splendid job of ignoring it and going on to making their same point over and over....no matter how nonsensical.