Where we stand on the issues

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

drugs was clearly joking but he's now been joined by two others who aren't.

i'm confued by jesus outpolling omnipotent deity 2:1 at this point. how do you believe in the former but not the latter?

the former was a prophet who existed, the latter...well...

at any rate, i believe that jesus was here. it's the whole divinity thing i have an issue with-especially when one considers that he was only 'made' divine when it was voted on in nicea, thanks to constantine.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the former was a prophet who existed, the latter...well...

at any rate, i believe that jesus was here. it's the whole divinity thing i have an issue with-especially when one considers that he was only 'made' divine when it was voted on in nicea, thanks to constantine.

i'm both stunned and impressed to find someone bringing the first council of nicea into the usual monkey's throwing dung level debate about religion here.

you stunpressed me.

[Dahoss]

I'm just glad you made it a public poll.

[GBBob]

Since Princess Doreen and Pedigree Ann are the same person, does that vote auto count twice?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i'm both stunned and impressed to find someone bringing the first council of nicea into the usual monkey's throwing dung level debate about religion here.

you stunpressed me.

i love that tidbit of info, it generally throws people into a tizzy. i recommend the book 'constantine's sword', a good read about christianity. susan wise bauer's history of ancient and early medieval also are good, with sections on the growth of christianity and rulers attempts at controlling the religion-constantine's attempts at stopping aryanism for instance.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Danzig

the former was a prophet who existed, the latter...well...

at any rate, i believe that jesus was here. it's the whole divinity thing i have an issue with-especially when one considers that he was only 'made' divine when it was voted on in nicea, thanks to constantine.

I also believe Jesus of Nazerath walked this planet at one point a couple thousand years ago. Whether he was the son of God or not... who the heck knows but I doubt it.

[SOREHOOF]

For the record, I thought I checked Gay Rights but I'm not on the list. That % should go up a couple ticks. I'm seriously rethinking my Prayer in School vote. Definitely not forced, or organized. Learning about religions place in history is important, but the story can change depending on who is telling it. Maybe some things are better left to parents.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

For the record, I thought I checked Gay Rights but I'm not on the list. That % should go up a couple ticks. I'm seriously rethinking my Prayer in School vote. Definitely not forced, or organized. Learning about religions place in history is important, but the story can change depending on who is telling it. Maybe some things are better left to parents.

The gay rights category as listed in this poll is a little ambiguous. There are many people who have no issue with homosexuals, don't want them to be persecuted, obviously they should have full protection on constitutional matters, insurance benefits, civil union agreements, etc. If this intended as a "gay marriage" category, it should be listed that way. It's possible to be undecided on that issue because it is so new to the public square and still reaffirm that gay Americans, being Americans, have the rights all Americans have under the Constitution. The Constitution does not spell out marriage -- that is defined under state laws (age of consent, all of that).

Similarly, if the abortion category was written as "reproductive rights", one could be undecided if one is for proactive birth control measures and not for abortion.