UN Workers Beheaded

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by Riot

No I didn't. Get a clue.

Comical.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Comical.

Math....if three people found themselves in a cage with three hungry lions who were thankfully asleep, all they had to do was quietly exit the cage but suddenly Jed started pounding on the cage and yelling waking the lions who attacked and killed the people inside. Sure they were in danger simply by being in the cage and sure, the lions were man-eaters all along and everyone knew that but would you give old Jed a pass for his actions?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Math....if three people found themselves in a cage with three hungry lions who were thankfully asleep, all they had to do was quietly exit the cage but suddenly Jed started pounding on the cage and yelling waking the lions who attacked and killed the people inside. Sure they were in danger simply by being in the cage and sure, the lions were man-eaters all along and everyone knew that but would you give old Jed a pass for his actions?

It's apples and oranges, but I'll play along.

At anytime the lions could wake up an attack without being provoked.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

It's apples and oranges, but I'll play along.

At anytime the lions could wake up an attack without being provoked.

But they didn't just wake up, they were awakened by the actions of dear old Jed. One can always use the excuse that they may have awakened on their own but that's not what happened...Jed's actions woke them! The fact that they did what wild animals do once they woke up doesn't dissolve Jed of the guilt of waking them up!

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

But they didn't just wake up, they were awakened by the actions of dear old Jed. One can always use the excuse that they may have awakened on their own but that's not what happened...Jed's actions woke them! The fact that they did what wild animals do once they woke up doesn't dissolve Jed of the guilt of waking them up!

So are you really saying that because one person out of a population of over three hundred million lit a book on fire, that he is soley responsible for waking the animals?

Do you understand how ridiculous that is?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

So are you really saying that because one person out of a population of over three hundred million lit a book on fire, that he is soley responsible for waking the animals?

Do you understand how ridiculous that is?

It's ridiculous to you because your mind is set, nothing I or anyone else will say will change it. Sorry that you feel his right to be a bigoted jerk supercedes any consequence of his actions. And, for the record, yes...he woke the lions.

[Riot]

I'll stick with General Patraeus' assessment (who, btw, also says Jed woke the lions):

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...831942006.html

The Afghani's are not Egyptians, nor even Libyans. They are tribal. They don't have internet access or Facebook. What they learn about the outside world is from their religious leaders during Friday afternoons. The dickwad in Florida put his little quest for fame on the internet, where the radical imams and the Taliban grabbed it and used it to stoke hate for America (like they did with the Abu Grab pictures) as represented by the troops on the ground in Afghanistan. Nobody in America even noticed it happened.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

It's ridiculous to you because your mind is set, nothing I or anyone else will say will change it. Sorry that you feel his right to be a bigoted jerk supercedes any consequence of his actions. And, for the record, yes...he woke the lions.

I'm glad we at least established that there are humans on one side of this dynamic and animals on the other.

It's strange that we see the beheadings and violence as unavoidable on the part of the muslims, and blame the burners of the book as if this is a physics relationship of cause and effect.

You can't have it both ways. If the two sides are equal as people (believers and non-believers alike), then BOTH need to have discipline and forebearance.

[GenuineRisk]

The Christian Science Monitor has a pretty good piece on how Jones' actions help the Taliban. Heading to the article:

"Many Afghans do not realize that US pastor Terry Jones, who held a Quran burning last month, heads a small church whose beliefs are not widely shared, thus fueling anti-foreigner sentiment that benefits the Taliban."

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Globa...ps-the-Taliban