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Old 04-04-2011, 03:06 PM
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A friend of mine is a Gnostic, some of what he's been showing to me via video info is interesting, especially regarding our level of consciousness

What I find rather offensive in everyday conversation is the idea tha God would play favorites with different countries or individuals.

Whether or not I pray for the Japanese survivors can not, and should not, have any effect on what God does from this point forward.

Why should God bless America anymore than another country? God Bless America is an arrogant, selfish request.
Again, I agree but that is the messengers not the message. Folks always want to believe they are the "chosen ones" rather than accept that we are ALL children of God/Allah/The One or whatever name one uses.
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Again, I agree but that is the messengers not the message. Folks always want to believe they are the "chosen ones" rather than accept that we are ALL children of God/Allah/The One or whatever name one uses.
or maybe just the children of our Parents?

The concept of hell alone makes me not be able to believe in any of that stuff. Its a ridiculous concept. The fact that someone like Gandhi could burn in eternal hell because he didnt accept the Lord Jesus Christ as his savior is f-ing crazy.

I think when you die you are just plain dead, and that is too difficult of a concept for people to grasp so they believe in heaven.
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Old 04-04-2011, 03:47 PM
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or maybe just the children of our Parents?

The concept of hell alone makes me not be able to believe in any of that stuff. Its a ridiculous concept. The fact that someone like Gandhi could burn in eternal hell because he didnt accept the Lord Jesus Christ as his savior is f-ing crazy.

I think when you die you are just plain dead, and that is too difficult of a concept for people to grasp so they believe in heaven.
Some of us believe the soul is immortal but have different concepts than heaven/hell. I agree that the very concept of hell just doesn't make sense.
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or maybe just the children of our Parents?

The concept of hell alone makes me not be able to believe in any of that stuff. Its a ridiculous concept. The fact that someone like Gandhi could burn in eternal hell because he didnt accept the Lord Jesus Christ as his savior is f-ing crazy.

I think when you die you are just plain dead, and that is too difficult of a concept for people to grasp so they believe in heaven.
I think a lot of people are terrified about ceasing to exist, so they need to persuade themselves there's something after. Who knows? Well, all of us will, eventually.

I'm with you on Hell being a ridiculous concept. If a religion needs to threaten you with eternal punishment to get you to follow it, what does that say about the appeal of the religion on its own merits?
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I think a lot of people are terrified about ceasing to exist, so they need to persuade themselves there's something after. Who knows? Well, all of us will, eventually.

I'm with you on Hell being a ridiculous concept. If a religion needs to threaten you with eternal punishment to get you to follow it, what does that say about the appeal of the religion on its own merits?
I agree big time on that. I often get remarks, if and when I do decide to speak up against the tide, that I will have to face my maker at the gates of heaven, and apparently will be sent to everlasting torture. Why? Because I did not bow down to Him. It says a lot about that sub-section of Christians who are only in it due to this fear
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Old 04-04-2011, 04:28 PM
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I agree big time on that. I often get remarks, if and when I do decide to speak up against the tide, that I will have to face my maker at the gates of heaven, and apparently will be sent to everlasting torture. Why? Because I did not bow down to Him. It says a lot about that sub-section of Christians who are only in it due to this fear
The whole concept of hell was a big factor in me leaving the Christian faith, also...the idea that god is masculine thereby relegating half of the population to a lesser status. I'm much more comfortable in the belief that earthly male/female roles don't apply to the maker of all.
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