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Old 04-01-2011, 03:25 PM
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Just doing the math in my head (and I realize I'm the only one who cares or is belaboring this point), but to lose $5 million on the infield from '08-'09 would mean that A., the attendance decline from one year to the next was entirely infield tickets, which it most likely was not, and B., each infield patron from 2008 would have had to spend approximately $84 a person on top of the $60 ticket price that wasn't spent in 2009.

Now, do some people that go to the infield spend some sort of money on something? Of course. But are the majority of those patrons the types to spend near $100 on betting or goods when they were allowed to bring as many cans of Mickey's they could carry? I would suggest not.
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Old 04-01-2011, 03:31 PM
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Just doing the math in my head (and I realize I'm the only one who cares or is belaboring this point), but to lose $5 million on the infield from '08-'09 would mean that A., the attendance decline from one year to the next was entirely infield tickets, which it most likely was not, and B., each infield patron from 2008 would have had to spend approximately $84 a person on top of the $60 ticket price that wasn't spent in 2009.

Now, do some people that go to the infield spend some sort of money on something? Of course. But are the majority of those patrons the types to spend near $100 on betting or goods when they were allowed to bring as many cans of Mickey's they could carry? I would suggest not.
have you been in the infield for the Preakness? I could easily see the money lost in the 4-5 million range, and yes the attendance decline was probably 98.7% infield tickets, did you see the TV view? The infield was empty compared to being packed the years before. And they are not just drinking, but gambling away.
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Yes, I've been to the infield - was there in 2009 even - and no, I've never noticed a gang of people waiting to bet. It's just not a "betting" crowd per se.
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And in '09, folks were buying beers at $3 a pop, which they weren't in 2008, countering at least some of the attendance loss one would assume.

Anyway, I think the $20 all you can drink deal is a great medium between the wrongful death lawsuit plan of the mid-2000's and the $3/beer infield plan of 2008. I certainly don't think that people from Baltimore County should have been able to roll their own kegs into the infield as they were allowed to do through the early 2000's.
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Yes, I've been to the infield - was there in 2009 even - and no, I've never noticed a gang of people waiting to bet. It's just not a "betting" crowd per se.
the betting lines were crazy long in the infield the few times i was there- last one being barbaro/bernardini
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Slot ....let me ask you something. Did some kids harass you last time you were there? What is it with you and your generalizations, not only of the Baltimore county citizens, but also the make up of the Preakness crowd in general? You really are coming off as some sort of bigot.

Money is money...it is all green and MJC needs it. My first comment in this thread was about drastic declines in attendance tied to their BYOB policy and the revenue lost because of it. I stand by the fact that these aggressive marketing campaigns and the $20 bottomless beer should have been rolled out at the same time.

You need to look in the mirror.
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Slot ....let me ask you something. Did some kids harass you last time you were there? What is it with you and your generalizations, not only of the Baltimore county citizens, but also the make up of the Preakness crowd in general? You really are coming off as some sort of bigot.

Money is money...it is all green and MJC needs it. My first comment in this thread was about drastic declines in attendance tied to their BYOB policy and the revenue lost because of it. I stand by the fact that these aggressive marketing campaigns and the $20 bottomless beer should have been rolled out at the same time.You need to look in the mirror.
Oh, no doubt about that from a marketing standpoint.

And come on down from the high horse. You've clearly never seen the average infield crowd. Or watched the Wire for that matter. Maryland blows.
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Oh, no doubt about that from a marketing standpoint.

And come on down from the high horse. You've clearly never seen the average infield crowd. Or watched the Wire for that matter. Maryland blows.
Clearly, what's on display here is a disgruntled non-MDer that has nothing in their home state to brag about or claim as their own so they blast a border state that has something they want.

VA racing sucks and will soon not exist - so what better chance to blast another state's racing?????

Kegasus sucks - but it has accomplished its goal - it is drawing attention. The only thing worse than a negative response to advertising is no response to advertising. Believe me, this ad has the target market talking. And that comes from an employee of the UMD system - the college boys are ramping up as a direct response to the ads.

So bash MD all you want. What does VA have to compare? Oh, that's right - two races a year no one has heard of.........
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