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Old 03-21-2011, 11:28 AM
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Really, really fast debut, but anyone else think they kicked it up a couple of points when the buzz started everyone scrambling to find the highest debut at 112?
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Old 03-21-2011, 01:48 PM
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Really, really fast debut, but anyone else think they kicked it up a couple of points when the buzz started everyone scrambling to find the highest debut at 112?
I'm sure some people think that.

They are wrong. Completely wrong.
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:04 PM
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The preliminary figure, as Steve posted, came back at 110. So you can say with definitively and with absolute authority that you can differentiate between a 112 and a 114? Wish I was that sharp.
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The preliminary figure, as Steve posted, came back at 110. So you can say with definitively and with absolute authority that you can differentiate between a 112 and a 114? Wish I was that sharp.
What's your point?

Do you make your own figures? Did you make them for Santa Anita this week? Where is your credibility here that you felt it was OK to take a random shot at the people that have spent their lives making speed figures?
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Old 03-21-2011, 02:11 PM
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What's your point?

Do you make your own figures? Did you make them for Santa Anita this week? Where is your credibility here that you felt it was OK to take a random shot at the people that have spent their lives making speed figures?
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What's your point?

Do you make your own figures? Did you make them for Santa Anita this week? Where is your credibility here that you felt it was OK to take a random shot at the people that have spent their lives making speed figures?


I guess I was "completely wrong".. I wasn't taking a shot at anyone...look, we all know Beyer's group- who I have a lot of respect for- has become more and more subjective and less mechanical through the years, so that his figures are different than those he produced with Formal Gold. Maybe they're better, but there is more of a human element now and humans are apt to push for superlatives instead of a near miss.
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I guess I was "completely wrong".. I wasn't taking a shot at anyone...look, we all know Beyer's group- who I have a lot of respect for- has become more and more subjective and less mechanical through the years, so that his figures are different than those he produced with Formal Gold. Maybe they're better, but there is more of a human element now and humans are apt to push for superlatives instead of a near miss.
Keep pushing that shovel.
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