Maclean's Music (110 preliminary Beyer)

[The Indomitable DrugS]

For some reason - I thought Formal Gold ran a 114 instead of a 112 in his debut. He ran a 112.



Formal Gold's 15-year-old record is in danger. That figure for Maclean's Music could justifiably be as high as a 113.

Formal Gold was pretty darn good at the end of his career - slaughtering the great Skip Away in back-to-back races with insane figures. Once he got hurt - Skip Away was invincible for over a year. Obviously - don't expect Maclean's Music to stretch out like that.

[justindew]

Only horse to ever run three straight BSFs over 124?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Since they've been published in '91 anyway.

[VOL JACK]

The amazing thing about his cut is he went into the '96 BCC as part of a 21-1 entry.
With PP's like that today, he would be 3/5.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

The amazing thing about his cut is he went into the '96 BCC as part of a 21-1 entry.
With PP's like that today, he would be 3/5.

True. And when is the last time the Pa Derby produced a LOSING Beyer of 113.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by justindew

True. And when is the last time the Pa Derby produced a LOSING Beyer of 113.

Yep - you had an incredibly deep division of 3yo and older males that year ... the likes of which we haven't seen since ....

and yet ....

this laughable slowpoke was named Horse of the Year that year...

[Indian Charlie]

Yeah, but wasn't Skip Away something like 4 of 11 that year?

It's hard to give HOY to a horse that didn't even win half of its starts.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

The amazing thing about his cut is he went into the '96 BCC as part of a 21-1 entry.
With PP's like that today, he would be 3/5.

Cigar was a 3/5 favorite that year.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

The amazing thing about his cut is he went into the '96 BCC as part of a 21-1 entry.
With PP's like that today, he would be 3/5.

Isolate his record at 10f.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Isolate his record at 10f.

I'll give you credit....you never tire of being boorish.

Many of us are still waiting for your response to your idiotic suggestion that horses with high debut Beyers ( you made your usual inane comment concerning Bind ) went on to do very little during their careers. Well, five of the 20 in the last 19 years to return won Grade 1 races ( seven races in total ). 13 of those 20 ran 1-2-3 in Grade 1 races and 13 of the 20 won Graded Stakes.

Why don't you respond when your idiocy is exposed instead of making one useless hit and run post after another?

I know, like you, that Formal Gold was 0 for 3 in 1 1/4 races. I also know he ran 106, 108 and 115 speed figures in losing three races he wasn't favored in, and was over 20:1 in one of them. But, you think you're clever with your snide little comment. Guess what? You aren't.

[slotdirt]

Every time I see a fast debut Beyer, I think "well, that's no Formal Gold." I guess I'll be thinking "wow, that's no Maclean's Music" from now on.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I'll give you credit....you never tire of being boorish.

Many of us are still waiting for your response to your idiotic suggestion that horses with high debut Beyers ( you made your usual inane comment concerning Bind ) went on to do very little during their careers. Well, five of the 20 in the last 19 years to return won Grade 1 races ( seven races in total ). 13 of those 20 ran 1-2-3 in Grade 1 races and 13 of the 20 won Graded Stakes.

Why don't you respond when your idiocy is exposed instead of making one useless hit and run post after another?

I know, like you, that Formal Gold was 0 for 3 in 1 1/4 races. I also know he ran 106, 108 and 115 speed figures in losing three races he wasn't favored in, and was over 20:1 in one of them. But, you think you're clever with your snide little comment. Guess what? You aren't.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

Isolate his record at 10f.

Do you think that there is a correlation between horses running fast in their debut and them developing into quality race horses?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Do you think that there is a correlation between horses running fast in their debut and them developing into quality race horses?

Thinking isn't on her resume.

[RolloTomasi]

What was with all the jockey changes on Formal Gold?

I suppose some of it had to do with all the jock changes on Skip Away.