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dalakhani · #1 03-19-2011, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is pretty obvious that the guy can shoot the ball. He not only has range, he can hit the mid range shot, stopping on a dime. That is a pretty easily assimilated skill.

Respert? The guy couldnt shoot off the dribble and didn't have the luxury of getting 4 or 5 layups a game like he did in college . Morrison? Hopson? I mean really? Using failed "prospects" as examples of why a completely different guy won't make it is an unusual tactic. Why was Respert a bust when Eric Snow his backcourt teammate who was picked 43rd in the same draft wasn't (relatively) despite being slower and a lot less skilled player?

Eric snow was a 6' 3" pg. Respert was a 6' 1" sg. That's my point. Snow was a good sized pg while respert was a hopelessly short sg that wasn't athletic enough to overcome his deficiencies to be a success in the pros. In order to overcome that lack of size, respert would have had to be extremely athletic like A.I or Gilbert athletic. Fredette isn't that athletic. He isn't even close.

Now, name me all of the 6' 2" white 2 guards playing in the pros.

Cannon Shell · #2 03-19-2011, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

Eric snow was a 6' 3" pg. Respert was a 6' 1" sg. That's my point. Snow was a good sized pg while respert was a hopelessly short sg that wasn't athletic enough to overcome his deficiencies to be a success in the pros. In order to overcome that lack of size, respert would have had to be extremely athletic like A.I or Gilbert athletic. Fredette isn't that athletic. He isn't even close.

Now, name me all of the 6' 2" white 2 guards playing in the pros.

You are missing the point. Snow didnt make it because he was 2 inches taller than Respert. He made it because he could play a role where Respert could not. Respert didnt shoot poorly in the NBA because he was 6'1". He shot poorly because he wasn't open all the time like he was in college.

Vinny Johnson wasn't tall or particularly athletic. Jason Kapono isnt athletic. Craig Hodges wasn't athletic. Steve Kerr wasn't quick or athletic. But they all can play a role as either instant offense off the bench or as a deep threat. Not one of these guys could guard Freddy mo but they all are longtime NBA players.

NBA games are 48 minutes long. There is a place for a guy who can score and shoot the way JF does. No one is saying that he is going to be an all star or even a starter. But is Toney Douglas really much better? Or DJ Augustin? He plays 33 minutes a game and averages 5 assists. Fredette isn't as good as Daniel Gibson? Or Jordan Farmar? Or Mario Chalmers? AJ Price can play 15 minutes a game in the league but Fredette can't? Acie Law? Ronnie Price?
Chris Quinn? Really?

slotdirt · #3 03-19-2011, 08:23 AM

Dear Jay Bilas:

GO F yourself.

Kindly signed,
VCU

dalakhani · #4 03-19-2011, 09:31 AM

I don't disagree that he will be drafted and will stick around for his rookie contract. His impact will be minimal.

He won't contribute or play as much as chalmers because he can't defend like chalmers who is an excellent perimeter defender.

All of the guys you named can defend Nba pg's to some degree. Fredette cant and he has no hope defending twos.

Again, how many 6' 2" white shooting guards are in the NBA?

Cannon Shell · #5 03-19-2011, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

I don't disagree that he will be drafted and will stick around for his rookie contract. His impact will be minimal.

He won't contribute or play as much as chalmers because he can't defend like chalmers who is an excellent perimeter defender.

All of the guys you named can defend Nba pg's to some degree. Fredette cant and he has no hope defending twos.

Again, how many 6' 2" white shooting guards are in the NBA?

Really? How many guys have his shooting ability or range?

Chalmers only plays because they can't get anyone else. He stinks. Hell they imported Bibby who passed away 2 years ago

And again I am not saying he will be star or impact player. But a good coach will be able to figure out how to utilize his abilities in a 12-15 minute a game way

dalakhani · #6 03-19-2011, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Really? How many guys have his shooting ability or range?

Chalmers only plays because they can't get anyone else. He stinks. Hell they imported Bibby who passed away 2 years ago

And again I am not saying he will be star or impact player. But a good coach will be able to figure out how to utilize his abilities in a 12-15 minute a game way

We will see.

clyde · #7 03-19-2011, 09:42 PM

Great retort.

dalakhani · #8 03-25-2011, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Really? How many guys have his shooting ability or range?

Chalmers only plays because they can't get anyone else. He stinks. Hell they imported Bibby who passed away 2 years ago

And again I am not saying he will be star or impact player. But a good coach will be able to figure out how to utilize his abilities in a 12-15 minute a game way

32 points for Jimmer last night. 3-15 from 3 point range . 6 turnovers and 5 assists. Helpless on defense against a very average college backcourt as drives to the bucket by whoever Fredette was guarding helped free the florida bigs for easy scores.

What coach could get him 15 minutes a game and who could he guard? There is a reason there hasn't been 6-2 inch white shooting guards in the NBA since the 70's.

He will get drafted and probably even go first round to some team in this awful draft. It won't take long to figure out that he can't play at the next level. He can do his mission in Europe and play hoops at night.

randallscott35 · #9 03-25-2011, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

32 points for Jimmer last night. 3-15 from 3 point range . 6 turnovers and 5 assists. Helpless on defense against a very average college backcourt as drives to the bucket by whoever Fredette was guarding helped free the florida bigs for easy scores.

What coach could get him 15 minutes a game and who could he guard? There is a reason there hasn't been 6-2 inch white shooting guards in the NBA since the 70's.

He will get drafted and probably even go first round to some team in this awful draft. It won't take long to figure out that he can't play at the next level. He can do his mission in Europe and play hoops at night.

He is a self centered douche of a player. He'll be fine in European leagues.

Cannon Shell · #10 03-25-2011, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

32 points for Jimmer last night. 3-15 from 3 point range . 6 turnovers and 5 assists. Helpless on defense against a very average college backcourt as drives to the bucket by whoever Fredette was guarding helped free the florida bigs for easy scores.

What coach could get him 15 minutes a game and who could he guard? There is a reason there hasn't been 6-2 inch white shooting guards in the NBA since the 70's.

He will get drafted and probably even go first round to some team in this awful draft. It won't take long to figure out that he can't play at the next level. He can do his mission in Europe and play hoops at night.

We'll see...

I just wonder what being white has to do with it? He pretty much has the exact same skill set and is taller than Jameer Nelson.