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[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Blair starts for the number one team in the west. He is short but wide and athletic. Big baby is the same way. He is a solid nba player. I don't know how he was compared to fredette but that is a weird comparison that really makes no sense. I don't remember you bringing him in so let's drop blair.

The last paragraph there makes no real sense either. Alford couldn't score in many ways? Respert couldn't? Morrison? Monroe?

Those guys weren't the primary options in college?? Morrison wasn't???

Fredette is the backcourt Adam morrison.

There is a reason why Blair's minutes are heavily monitored. He may start but he usually plays less than half the game and that probably wont change much.

None of those players could score in the NBA. There is no reason why Fredette can't. He could easily work as a change of pace guy off the bench in the right system. Morrison was just too slow and didnt have nearly enough range to make up for it.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There is a reason why Blair's minutes are heavily monitored. He may start but he usually plays less than half the game and that probably wont change much.

None of those players could score in the NBA. There is no reason why Fredette can't. He could easily work as a change of pace guy off the bench in the right system. Morrison was just too slow and didnt have nearly enough range to make up for it.

How do you know fredette can score in the NBA? Respert, Morrison and hopson were all better prospects and were lottery picks in deeper drafts. They were all dominant scorers and the primary focus of their respective offenses in college. Respert was 6 1 195 and quicker than fredette who is 6 2 195.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

How do you know fredette can score in the NBA? Respert, Morrison and hopson were all better prospects and were lottery picks in deeper drafts. They were all dominant scorers and the primary focus of their respective offenses in college. Respert was 6 1 195 and quicker than fredette who is 6 2 195.

It is pretty obvious that the guy can shoot the ball. He not only has range, he can hit the mid range shot, stopping on a dime. That is a pretty easily assimilated skill.

Respert? The guy couldnt shoot off the dribble and didn't have the luxury of getting 4 or 5 layups a game like he did in college . Morrison? Hopson? I mean really? Using failed "prospects" as examples of why a completely different guy won't make it is an unusual tactic. Why was Respert a bust when Eric Snow his backcourt teammate who was picked 43rd in the same draft wasn't (relatively) despite being slower and a lot less skilled player?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is pretty obvious that the guy can shoot the ball. He not only has range, he can hit the mid range shot, stopping on a dime. That is a pretty easily assimilated skill.

Respert? The guy couldnt shoot off the dribble and didn't have the luxury of getting 4 or 5 layups a game like he did in college . Morrison? Hopson? I mean really? Using failed "prospects" as examples of why a completely different guy won't make it is an unusual tactic. Why was Respert a bust when Eric Snow his backcourt teammate who was picked 43rd in the same draft wasn't (relatively) despite being slower and a lot less skilled player?

Eric snow was a 6' 3" pg. Respert was a 6' 1" sg. That's my point. Snow was a good sized pg while respert was a hopelessly short sg that wasn't athletic enough to overcome his deficiencies to be a success in the pros. In order to overcome that lack of size, respert would have had to be extremely athletic like A.I or Gilbert athletic. Fredette isn't that athletic. He isn't even close.

Now, name me all of the 6' 2" white 2 guards playing in the pros.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Eric snow was a 6' 3" pg. Respert was a 6' 1" sg. That's my point. Snow was a good sized pg while respert was a hopelessly short sg that wasn't athletic enough to overcome his deficiencies to be a success in the pros. In order to overcome that lack of size, respert would have had to be extremely athletic like A.I or Gilbert athletic. Fredette isn't that athletic. He isn't even close.

Now, name me all of the 6' 2" white 2 guards playing in the pros.

You are missing the point. Snow didnt make it because he was 2 inches taller than Respert. He made it because he could play a role where Respert could not. Respert didnt shoot poorly in the NBA because he was 6'1". He shot poorly because he wasn't open all the time like he was in college.

Vinny Johnson wasn't tall or particularly athletic. Jason Kapono isnt athletic. Craig Hodges wasn't athletic. Steve Kerr wasn't quick or athletic. But they all can play a role as either instant offense off the bench or as a deep threat. Not one of these guys could guard Freddy mo but they all are longtime NBA players.

NBA games are 48 minutes long. There is a place for a guy who can score and shoot the way JF does. No one is saying that he is going to be an all star or even a starter. But is Toney Douglas really much better? Or DJ Augustin? He plays 33 minutes a game and averages 5 assists. Fredette isn't as good as Daniel Gibson? Or Jordan Farmar? Or Mario Chalmers? AJ Price can play 15 minutes a game in the league but Fredette can't? Acie Law? Ronnie Price?
Chris Quinn? Really?

[slotdirt]

Dear Jay Bilas:

GO F yourself.

Kindly signed,
VCU

[dalakhani]

I don't disagree that he will be drafted and will stick around for his rookie contract. His impact will be minimal.

He won't contribute or play as much as chalmers because he can't defend like chalmers who is an excellent perimeter defender.

All of the guys you named can defend Nba pg's to some degree. Fredette cant and he has no hope defending twos.

Again, how many 6' 2" white shooting guards are in the NBA?