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Old 02-26-2011, 08:56 PM
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I would guess the figure to be somewhere in the 106-to-109 range. It was about 20 points faster than the alw race.

The pace was about 30 points faster than the 9f alw race pace.
And that makes sense to you as a single variant situation?

I don't have a good answer, by the way, but I'm skeptical at face value.
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:04 PM
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I thought To Honor And Serve ran like junk today. There wasn't much about his race I could give him a pass on, sans the outside draw/wide early. But even then, he's supposed to finish better. He was done and out with about 3 1/2 furlongs to go.

On the other hand, he does have room to improve going forward, and yes, it was his first start of the year. That said, I was never really impressed with his Remsen, and will sit on the "exposed" opposed to "needed the race" side of the coin for now.
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:04 PM
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And that makes sense to you as a single variant situation?
I think it does. If anyone thinks it doesn't I'd like to hear there take why.
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:22 PM
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Arch Traveler - 76
San Pablo - 79
R Heat Lightning - 98
Flashpoint - 102
Soldat - 96
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:28 PM
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Arch Traveler - 76
San Pablo - 79
R Heat Lightning - 98
Flashpoint - 102
Soldat - 96
Arch Traveler ran a 7 point new career worst - and went backwards 14 points off of his last race in victory?

Even Gourmet Dinner went backwards! Everything in the only two route races today all went backwards!
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:30 PM
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I'm with you that they don't look right.
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Old 02-26-2011, 09:42 PM
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I'm with you that they don't look right.
I know there are only two races to work with - but for the life of me - I can't ever remember being that far in disagreement!

Sheckleford's 9f GP alw win got an 89 Beyer... and here's how the top 3 finishers from that race performed in the Fountain of Youth...

Winner: Sheckleford - 5th by 23.5 lengths

2nd Place: Casper's Touch - 7th by 35.5 lengths

3rd Place: El Grayling - pressed the pace and was eased through the stretch after hopelessly beaten.
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Old 02-26-2011, 10:48 PM
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I think THAS got exposed for the horse I suspected he was all along.

A slow speed horse that needs a soft pace to run his race.
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Old 02-27-2011, 12:01 PM
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Arch Traveler ran a 7 point new career worst - and went backwards 14 points off of his last race in victory?

Even Gourmet Dinner went backwards! Everything in the only two route races today all went backwards!
I agree the figs are too low, but not to the extent you have them. I think the allowance was hindered by a dawdling pace which kept the winner in the low 80s. I have Soldat in the low 100s.
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