Deron Williams to Nets

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Newark isn't a fraction of the tourist/rich person destination that Brooklyn is, and you're completely wrong about the distance. If the arena is ever built, it's 10 minutes from the city, maximum. You're not getting from NYC to Newark in 10 minutes unless you take an airplane.

Absolutely untrue. To get to where the new arena will be is much more than 10 minutes. And after just spending a month in NYC driving everyday between Newark and midtown, it never took me more than 15 minutes unless the traffic was really bad in which case, you could take the PATH and be there in about a 1/2 hour or less. I don't understand why people act like being across the river makes that much of a difference. Everyone accepts that the Giants and Jets are New York teams and they both play over in Jersey. The Pats are Boston's team and look how far they are from Boston. The Angels are marketed as the Los Angeles Angels and they are way out in Anaheim. Look at where the New York Islanders play.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Absolutely untrue. To get to where the new arena will be is much more than 10 minutes. And after just spending a month in NYC driving everyday between Newark and midtown, it never took me more than 15 minutes unless the traffic was really bad in which case, you could take the PATH and be there in about a 1/2 hour or less. I don't understand why people act like being across the river makes that much of a difference. Everyone accepts that the Giants and Jets are New York teams and they both play over in Jersey. The Pats are Boston's team and look how far they are from Boston. The Angels are marketed as the Los Angeles Angels and they are way out in Anaheim. Look at where the New York Islanders play.

Don't know when you commute, but in the morning during rush hour it takes just 15 minutes to get on the Newark Bay Extention.
Also I think comparing basketball (where the majority of games are played at night) versus football (it's a whole day event) is like apples and oranges. While the Rock in Newark is an absolutely beautiful arena, most of the surrounding area is deplorable. Not to mention the lack of nice restauraunts/bars to go to before and after the game. Who really wants to sit and wait for the 40 minute Path ride back to the city after a Nets game in Newark?
Baseball is it's own animal too, I personally thought the Mets should have tried to move to the city.
As far as the Islanders go, they are pretty much a small market team that belongs for Long Island. Going out there really sucks.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Absolutely untrue. To get to where the new arena will be is much more than 10 minutes. And after just spending a month in NYC driving everyday between Newark and midtown, it never took me more than 15 minutes unless the traffic was really bad in which case, you could take the PATH and be there in about a 1/2 hour or less. I don't understand why people act like being across the river makes that much of a difference. Everyone accepts that the Giants and Jets are New York teams and they both play over in Jersey. The Pats are Boston's team and look how far they are from Boston. The Angels are marketed as the Los Angeles Angels and they are way out in Anaheim. Look at where the New York Islanders play.

Great, you spent a month driving in NYC. I've lived here my entire life and the arena site is 10 minutes from the city. Bridge traffic is a non-issue 95% of the time and the train is even easier. Newark is not nearly as close or convenient.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Great, you spent a month driving in NYC. I've lived here my entire life and the arena site is 10 minutes from the city. Bridge traffic is a non-issue 95% of the time and the train is even easier. Newark is not nearly as close or convenient.

Roebling Tea Room and Enid's were my SHITE when I spent a week in Brooklyn in December.

What this has to do with the price of peanuts in China? I couldn't tell ya.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Roebling Tea Room and Enid's were my SHITE when I spent a week in Brooklyn in December.

What this has to do with the price of peanuts in China? I couldn't tell ya.

Let me know if you make it again. There are a lot of other fun spots in that area I can put you on to.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Absolutely untrue. To get to where the new arena will be is much more than 10 minutes. And after just spending a month in NYC driving everyday between Newark and midtown, it never took me more than 15 minutes unless the traffic was really bad in which case, you could take the PATH and be there in about a 1/2 hour or less. I don't understand why people act like being across the river makes that much of a difference. Everyone accepts that the Giants and Jets are New York teams and they both play over in Jersey. The Pats are Boston's team and look how far they are from Boston. The Angels are marketed as the Los Angeles Angels and they are way out in Anaheim. Look at where the New York Islanders play.

This is not your finest work.

The Nets never had an identity. They will have one in Brooklyn. That move will be huge for them, especially if they have a decent team, and the Brooklyn location is tremendous. Not only is it by the LIRR hub, it is also next to probably the biggest subway hub in the entire NYC area. Virtually every subway goes right there. I live on the Upper West Side and can get there, door to door, in under 40 minutes. Trust me, I have gone to the Newark arena, and it is nice, but it's a MUCH bigger commute by public transportation.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

This is not your finest work.

The Nets never had an identity. They will have one in Brooklyn. That move will be huge for them, especially if they have a decent team, and the Brooklyn location is tremendous. Not only is it by the LIRR hub, it is also next to probably the biggest subway hub in the entire NYC area. Virtually every subway goes right there. I live on the Upper West Side and can get there, door to door, in under 40 minutes. Trust me, I have gone to the Newark arena, and it is nice, but it's a MUCH bigger commute by public transportation.

I'm sorry that I always disappoint you. I do not think that the move to Brooklyn will be so great for them. I understand that it's going to be a magnificent arena and that they'll have every chance to be a big draw but I just don't think that it's going to happen. The city is still a Knicks city. Always will be. Again, I don't think that Newark is a totally different world than NYC. The Lakers moved from Inglewood to downtown LA and if they moved to Anaheim, they'd still be the same draw. If the Knicks didn't exist, NJ would be NY's team and people would have no problem crossing the river. With the cost of the new arena, the average fan won't be able to afford going and the high end people that they'd be hoping to attract are still going to be going to Knicks games. The Nets don't draw because they are the Nets, not because they are across the river. Bergen, Union, Hudson, and Essex counties are all very heavily populated and in NJ and they provide a huge fan base. If people wanted to see the Nets, they would. I don't think moving to Brooklyn will make them more attractive.