Egypt

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

well at least in the Quran there was time before time and all God had to do is think be and it would be. Didn't get far enough to find out when or how vegetarian dinosaurs became carnivores. You know some Christians might take what you said above as being offensive to say the least. However rest assured unlike some of their muslim counterparts they have no desire to cut off your head.

Some Christians take the entire Creation Museum as offensive.

Some Christians want women with acutely life-threatening injuries obtained via accident to be able to be refused treatment at emergency rooms if her emergency treatment needed to save her life involves taking the baby. Doesn't even require the hospital send her elsewhere. This is a change to current law that requires all hospitals to immediately give minimal life-saving emergency care without question. This bill is a resolution currently waiting for a vote in our great new Congress. Bringing this to the floor was more important to some members of our new Republican Congress than jobs and the economy.

I'm sure cutting off her head would be a quicker death than being refused emergency treatment in America and bleeding out.

Religion is a dangerous force when it forces it's beliefs on all citizens via law.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Some Christians take the entire Creation Museum as offensive.

Some Christians want women with acutely life-threatening injuries obtained via accident to be able to be refused treatment at emergency rooms if her emergency treatment needed to save her life involves taking the baby. Doesn't even require the hospital send her elsewhere. This is a change to current law that requires all hospitals to immediately give minimal life-saving emergency care without question. This bill is a resolution currently waiting for a vote in our great new Congress. Bringing this to the floor was more important to some members of our new Republican Congress than jobs and the economy.

I'm sure cutting off her head would be a quicker death than being refused emergency treatment in America and bleeding out.

Religion is a dangerous force when it forces it's beliefs on all citizens via law.

You are still blaming the Republicans for everything as usual.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

You are still blaming the Republicans for everything as usual.

And you're still speaking with the non-specific bumper sticker intelligence understanding of a first-grader. As usual.

I am indeed blaming the specific Republicans that brought and co-sponsored HR 258 into Congress for what it contains. Absolutely. The main writer is Rep. Joe Pitts (Republican-PA).

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

And you're still speaking with the non-specific bumper sticker intelligence understanding of a first-grader. As usual.

I am indeed blaming the specific Republicans that brought and co-sponsored HR 258 into Congress for what it contains. Absolutely. The main writer is Rep. Joe Pitts (Republican-PA).

And you are still living in your make believe word.

Im sure you will say this has the doing of the Republicans even though this is Obama's doing. I know it has nothing to do with Egypt.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110213/...ma_pell_grants

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

And you are still living in your make believe word.

Im sure you will say this has the doing of the Republicans even though this is Obama's doing. I know it has nothing to do with Egypt.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110213/...ma_pell_grants

sounds like a good move.


'The first proposal would end the "year-round Pell" policy that let students collect two grants in a calendar year, with the second grant used for summer school. The official said the costs exceeded expectations and there was little evidence that students earn their degrees any faster.

The change would save $8 billion next year and $60 billion over a decade, the official said.'



the govt also needs to consider putting funding towards kids choosing to learn a trade, rather than pushing everyone to go to college. we're facing a shortage of plumbers, electricians, auto mechanics and hvac techs. happy to see that the gi bill will now pay for vo-tech schooling for vets.

[Riot]

And you are still living in your make believe word.

Blaming a Republican congressman for introducing a bill is make believe?

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Blaming a Republican congressman for introducing a bill is make believe?

Did I say introducing a bill is make believe? You only want to see whatever you want to. You speak so highly of the Democrats all the time. Are they a perfect political party? We dont need to mention Charlie Rangel. You mention the Republican who did the honorable thing and resigned. The last time I looked good old Charlie was still serving in DC. What happened to Pelosi's bs talk about ethics? I guess it is ok for Rangel not to pay taxes for all these years.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Did I say introducing a bill is make believe? You only want to see whatever you want to. You speak so highly of the Democrats all the time. Are they a perfect political party? We dont need to mention Charlie Rangel. You mention the Republican who did the honorable thing and resigned. The last time I looked good old Charlie was still serving in DC. What happened to Pelosi's bs talk about ethics? I guess it is ok for Rangel not to pay taxes for all these years.

I never spoke highly of Rangel's breaches of ethics. Did I?

Here's hoping you can lose all that anger, Nascar. I'm sure it's not good for your blood pressure.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Riot

And you're still speaking with the non-specific bumper sticker intelligence understanding of a first-grader. As usual.

I am indeed blaming the specific Republicans that brought and co-sponsored HR 258 into Congress for what it contains. Absolutely. The main writer is Rep. Joe Pitts (Republican-PA).

What bill number is this? HR 258 as I found it is...

H.R. 258: To require the Office of Management and Budget to prepare a crosscut budget for restoration...
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To require the Office of Management and Budget to prepare a crosscut budget for restoration activities in the Chesapeake Bay watershed, to require the Environmental Protection Agency to develop and implement an adaptive management plan, and for other purposes.

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http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112-258

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

What bill number is this? HR 258 as I found it is...

H.R. 258: To require the Office of Management and Budget to prepare a crosscut budget for restoration...
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To require the Office of Management and Budget to prepare a crosscut budget for restoration activities in the Chesapeake Bay watershed, to require the Environmental Protection Agency to develop and implement an adaptive management plan, and for other purposes.

Overview
Sponsor: Rep. Rob Wittman [R-VA1](no cosponsors)
Cosponsors:


Text: Full Text
Status: Introduced Jan 7, 2011
Referred to Committee View Committee Assignments
Reported by Committee ...
House Vote ...
Senate Vote ...
Signed by President ...

This bill is in the first step in the legislative process. Introduced bills and resolutions first go to committees that deliberate, investigate, and revise them before they go to general debate. The majority of bills and resolutions never make it out of committee. [Last Updated: Jan 8, 2011 6:25AM]
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i think it maybe be 358. but yeah, let's worry about the resolution number, rather than the subject.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i think it maybe be 358. but yeah, let's worry about the resolution number, rather than the subject.

I would have never asked for a correction on the bill number if I wasn't planning on reading it. And I never was really worried.

BTW if a clause is in there stating a hospital refusing treatment to a dying woman, in an emergency, if part of that treatment terminates a pregnancy, is legal, it's embarrassing. Though I suspect this is some sort of huffington hyperbole based on exemptions for catholic hospitals.

[dellinger63]

Just read the bill (it's short) and low and behold my suspicions were correct. I will take it over to the appropriate thread.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I would have never asked for a correction on the bill number if I wasn't planning on reading it. And I never was really worried.

BTW if a clause is in there stating a hospital refusing treatment to a dying woman, in an emergency, if part of that treatment terminates a pregnancy, is legal, it's embarrassing. Though I suspect this is some sort of huffington hyperbole based on exemptions for catholic hospitals.

I'm amazed you dismiss something as false with absolutely zerio direct knowledge of what you are talking about

Wait: no, I am not amazed. Sorry.

[Riot]

[quote]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

What bill number is this? HR 258 as I found it is..

Facesmack - my error. Try HR 358 Google: "Pitts Abortion 2011" for articles on it.

Edit: and also, this bill retains the horrible term forcible rape - rather than just rape. I guess if you are not bruised and battered, it's not rape.

That term was what caused the one bill that has already been pulled, to have been pulled.

(there have been three separate bills entered into this congress about abortion so far)

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

You are still blaming the Republicans for everything as usual.

that's all you garnered from that post? it's a crappy law, who cares who put it up? another resolution pushed forth that does nothing to grow the economy, or build jobs... it's garbage like that which will assure that the reps majority in the house won't last past the next election. they take their chance to do something worthwhile, and produce a bs resolution like that. bravo.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Danzig

that's all you garnered from that post? it's a crappy law, who cares who put it up? another resolution pushed forth that does nothing to grow the economy, or build jobs... it's garbage like that which will assure that the reps majority in the house won't last past the next election. they take their chance to do something worthwhile, and produce a bs resolution like that. bravo.

Riot does it most of the time. Riot is always slamming the Republicans. I guess Riot's beloved Democrats are a perfect political party.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

nascar does it most of the time. nascar is always slamming the democrats. I guess nascars beloved republicans are a perfect political party.

now, is that a more palatable post? i've said to riot that i thought she wasn't evenhanded, that she often seems to be cheerleading one party while critical of the other. you're the same way! funny that you accuse her of doing that, and you do the same-only for the other side. in other words, pot meet kettle! but, like i've read and thought was spot on, and said on here before: how great the sin when someone else commits it. now, tell me how you're able to discuss each issue, rather than always take one party's side. now, don't really try, as that's a rhetorical question.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Danzig

now, is that a more palatable post? i've said to riot that i thought she wasn't evenhanded, that she often seems to be cheerleading one party while critical of the other. you're the same way! funny that you accuse her of doing that, and you do the same-only for the other side. in other words, pot meet kettle! but, like i've read and thought was spot on, and said on here before: how great the sin when someone else commits it. now, tell me how you're able to discuss each issue, rather than always take one party's side. now, don't really try, as that's a rhetorical question.

When did I post that sherlock?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

When did I post that sherlock?

you didn't. i took what you wrote about riot, and changed the appropriate names to you and your party. now, do you understand? you calling out someone for talking good only about one side, and only attacking one side is downright hilarious-as well as hypocritical. you do that every day! every post. you attack everything done by obama and the dems as being a bad thing, and everything done by the reps as a good thing. it's not! just like your attempt to bash obama over pell grants. not one person has agreed with you thus far. your attempt at attacking him in that respect failed miserably, as his points are well made.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Riot does it most of the time. Riot is always slamming the Republicans. I guess Riot's beloved Democrats are a perfect political party.

Yup. I do indeed see alot in the Republicans within the past few years to slam. Yes, indeed. Forty years, I'm watching them move so far right they are about to tip the party right off the cliff.

When Cheney gets heckled at CPAC, you know it's changed.

The Democrats are not "my beloved perfect political party" - they are not even "my party", but yes, indeed, I've been happier with what the Dems have offered. In 2008, I looked at McCain-Palin, and I looked at Obama-Biden, and I voted Obama without hesitation. Damn glad I did so, too. Obama is doing just fine. And at this point, I'll do it again.