Visualizing Obama Spending Cuts

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Do you understand that the point of that high speed (not light) rail bill is to not only try and bring the US up to speed with what other first world countries have, infrastructure-wise, but to create thousands of jobs for steelworkers, factories, metalworkers, construction, etc? Because we have 9% unemployment and only 36,000 new jobs created last month?

What do you think of the budget cuts the Dems have done over the past 2 years?

If the Dems made budget cuts the past two then how did the National Debt go up genius?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

If the Dems made budget cuts the past two then how did the National Debt go up genius?

Maybe you could think really hard, back to first grade math, where you learned addition and subtraction. Genius.

I seriously cannot believe an adult human asked that question.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Maybe you could think really hard, back to first grade math, where you learned addition and subtraction. Genius.

I seriously cannot believe an adult human asked that question.

Your more nothing but a stupid ________

Your going to say that this doent show the debt going up?

Go back to dream land. Dell is right about you. I would really tell you something else but I wont.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966 View Post
If the Dems made budget cuts the past two then how did the National Debt go up genius?

Try really hard, and think of a scenario where spending has decreased via budget cuts, but the amount of spending still requires borrowing money to pay for it, and loans still have interest adding up.

Don't hurt your ass. I mean your brain. Genius.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Try really hard, and think of a scenario where spending has decreased via budget cuts, but the amount of spending still requires borrowing money to pay for it, and loans still have interest adding up.

Don't hurt your ass. I mean your brain. Genius.

LMAO. Have another Bourbon. Let it take away what little brain cells you have left. Maybe if you would stand up more there would less pressure on your brain.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

If the Dems made budget cuts the past two then how did the National Debt go up genius?

i guess you missed the article that said federal revenue was it's lowest since 1950.
altho it is almost amusing to see you attack riot at every turn, you're really not the one to do that effectively, as one can't fight a battle of wits if one is unarmed. now, some of us on here might have some down and dirty moments, but i for one know of times when i agree with riot on things, and other times when i do not. you're constant barrage against her is strictly personal, and is becoming tedious. why don't you try actually arguing the points of her case, rather than just accuse her of stupidity? it might be interesting.
but probably not.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i guess you missed the article that said federal revenue was it's lowest since 1950.
altho it is almost amusing to see you attack riot at every turn, you're really not the one to do that effectively, as one can't fight a battle of wits if one is unarmed. now, some of us on here might have some down and dirty moments, but i for one know of times when i agree with riot on things, and other times when i do not. you're constant barrage against her is strictly personal, and is becoming tedious. why don't you try actually arguing the points of her case, rather than just accuse her of stupidity? it might be interesting.
but probably not.

IGNORE ME THEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Riot has no problems attacking me. I guess what is good for the goose isnt good for the gander. Riot doesnt have me brainwashed like it seems that other people are. Riot always asked me for evidence on something and I gave it to Riot on occasions. Does Riot always give evidence? I was told that it wasnt sufficient enough. where is Riot's evidence I would say other words about Riot and another individual but I will use restrain and wont do that.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

IGNORE ME THEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Riot has no problems attacking me. I guess what is good for the goose isnt good for the gander. Riot doesnt have me brainwashed like it seems that other people are. Riot always asked me for evidence on something and I gave it to Riot on occasions. Does Riot always give evidence? I was told that it wasnt sufficient enough. where is Riot's evidence I would say other words about Riot and another individual but I will use restrain and wont do that.

Poor Nascar. You're the victim. Poor you. Other people make your life miserable. Riot. Muslims. Hispanics. Poor you.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Poor Nascar. You're the victim. Poor you. Other people make your life miserable. Riot. Muslims. Hispanics. Poor you.

If you say so.

[Princess Doreen]

A drop in the bucket compared to the debt, but it's a start.

A recent poll from Heritage Foundation -

[Riot]

Strangely, in spite of what is claimed by the right-wing Heritage, those spending cuts have nothing at all to do with the majority of the money spent in the past 4-6 years. Nor does it address what caused our deficits, and what is continuing to contribute to the deficit. Here's what has caused our deficits:



BTW, the majority of TARP has already been paid back, with us making a profit of $53 billion in interest.

Those spending cuts come out of only 14-17% of our budget (the rest is defense, entitlements, etc - which are not touched, apparently, by Heritage's recommendations) are are simply the usual right-wing culture wars on education, FDA, EPA, etc.

Nothing new there. Except that if conservatives really wanted to touch that stuff, they would have already done so when they were in control. They don't like to cut, they like to spend. How Dems got to be known as the party of spend is a mystery, as the last 40-60 years show the GOP excelling at it.

In fact, that reminds me, the current GOP in the House said that everything in the budget must be funded - except for tax cuts. The GOP loves giving unfunded tax cuts. Cut the governments revenue, but don't stop spending - put it on the credit card. Reagan, Bush I, Bush II - they all did it. Uniquely a GOP phenomenon, and that's exactly what gave us our huge trillions in deficit today.

We could eliminate the majority of our deficit - that huge dark gold area-under-the-curve on the graph, above - by simply allowing the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest to expire. Obama should not have just caved to the GOP on that. Bringing home the troops from the wars will get another good chunk.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Riot

Poor Nascar. You're the victim. Poor you. Other people make your life miserable. Riot. Muslims. Hispanics. Poor you.

Clearly Non compos mentis.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

IGNORE ME THEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Riot has no problems attacking me. I guess what is good for the goose isnt good for the gander. Riot doesnt have me brainwashed like it seems that other people are. Riot always asked me for evidence on something and I gave it to Riot on occasions. Does Riot always give evidence? I was told that it wasnt sufficient enough. where is Riot's evidence I would say other words about Riot and another individual but I will use restrain and wont do that.

dude, get a grip. you think because you're a vet that you have every right to go on the attack against everyone who disagrees with you on anything. jms, riot are just two of those...since when is 'have a bourbon' proof of anything? or 'youre a _____'. no, wait, it's 'your a ____'. you don't post links, you don't post facts, you post a bunch of bs. you jumping into a conversation adds nothing to the dialogue. and right now i do have one fellow on ignore, but you amuse me, so i guess for now i won't bother adding you. and you might want to go back to the start of this thread and read back thru it, and then tell me who attacked whom.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Danzig

dude, get a grip. you think because you're a vet that you have every right to go on the attack against everyone who disagrees with you on anything. jms, riot are just two of those...since when is 'have a bourbon' proof of anything? or 'youre a _____'. no, wait, it's 'your a ____'. you don't post links, you don't post facts, you post a bunch of bs. you jumping into a conversation adds nothing to the dialogue. and right now i do have one fellow on ignore, but you amuse me, so i guess for now i won't bother adding you. and you might want to go back to the start of this thread and read back thru it, and then tell me who attacked whom.

Whatever Dude. When you see something I post dont look at or read it. IGNORE IT.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Whatever Dude. When you see something I post dont look at or read it. IGNORE IT.

where would the fun be in that?

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Danzig

dude, get a grip. you think because you're a vet that you have every right to go on the attack against everyone who disagrees with you on anything. jms, riot are just two of those...since when is 'have a bourbon' proof of anything? or 'youre a _____'. no, wait, it's 'your a ____'. you don't post links, you don't post facts, you post a bunch of bs. you jumping into a conversation adds nothing to the dialogue. and right now i do have one fellow on ignore, but you amuse me, so i guess for now i won't bother adding you. and you might want to go back to the start of this thread and read back thru it, and then tell me who attacked whom.

Another thing I will not let anyone tell me that I didnt earn my pension or excellent medical insurance when they didnt spend a day in the military. They want to run thier mouths off. Have they spend six months or up to two years away from thier family? Have they been in a combat situation where they might be shot at? Yet they still want to say that the retirees dont deserve a pension or excellent medical insurance? Im sure no one put a gun to them and said they couldnt join the military. If they wanted a job where they could get a pension maybe they should of did some more research.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Another thing I will not let anyone tell me that I didnt earn my pension or excellent medical insurance when they didnt spend a day in the military. They want to run thier mouths off. Have they spend six months or up to two years away from thier family? Have they been in a combat situation where they might be shot at? Yet they still want to say that the retirees dont deserve a pension or excellent medical insurance? Im sure no one put a gun to them and said they couldnt join the military. If they wanted a job where they could get a pension maybe they should of did some more research.

I've not seen one person on this board who has ever said veterans didn't earn their pension or their insurance. In fact, I've seen people here - including me - say directly to you that you've earned those benefits, and you deserve them. People have only said that veterans had those benefits, and it was paid for by our taxes to the government.

The victim card you play is really old.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

I've not seen one person on this board who has ever said veterans didn't earn their pension or their insurance. In fact, I've seen people here - including me - say directly to you that you've earned those benefits, and you deserve them. People have only said that veterans had those benefits, and it was paid for by our taxes to the government.

The victim card you play is really old.

Whatever

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Another thing I will not let anyone tell me that I didnt earn my pension or excellent medical insurance when they didnt spend a day in the military. They want to run thier mouths off. Have they spend six months or up to two years away from thier family? Have they been in a combat situation where they might be shot at? Yet they still want to say that the retirees dont deserve a pension or excellent medical insurance? Im sure no one put a gun to them and said they couldnt join the military. If they wanted a job where they could get a pension maybe they should of did some more research.

it was your choice to join the military and stay long enough to retire. no one owes you a thing for that. you earned your retirement, good for you. it doesn't preclude you from criticism, it doesn't make you a martyr for your cause. props to you for serving, but quit thinking it entitles you to post whatever you wish to whomever you desire just because they disagree with you politically. it doesn't give you carte blanche. and you aren't better than anyone else here because you served in active duty and others chose not to.
it's a volunteer force, as it should be. others serve in other ways, including paying the taxes that paid you during active duty, and pays your retirement, and paid for your gear, your housing, your medical care, etc, etc. quit acting as tho anyone disagreeing with you is an attack on a soldier, or the military, or is a way of saying you didn't earn what you've got.
personally, i think 20 years is too short a time to qualify for retirement, but that's just me.