LOL -- A warning from Napolitano

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

FYI

Ignoring the "minor crime" such as ID theft and property crimes being committed by illegal aliens, here is a summary on some of the collateral damage reaped in crimes as a result of tolerating illegal aliens in the USA:

In Los Angeles, 95% of some 1,500 outstanding warrants for homicides are for illegal aliens. About 67% of the 17,000 outstanding fugitive felony warrants are for illegal aliens.

There are currently over 400,000 unaccounted for illegal alien criminals with outstanding deportation orders. At least one fourth of these are hard core criminals.

80,000 to 100,000 illegal aliens who have been convicted of serious crimes are walking the streets. Based on studies they will commit an average of 13 serious crimes per perpetrator.

Illegal aliens are involved in criminal activities at a rate that is 2-5 times their representative proportion of the population.

In 1980, our Federal and state facilities held fewer than 9,000 criminal aliens but at the end of 2003, approximately 267,000 illegal aliens were incarcerated in U.S. correctional facilities at a cost of about $6.8 billion per year.

At least 4.5 million pounds of cocaine with a street value of at least $72 billion is smuggled across the southern border every year. ..

56% of illegal aliens charged with a reentry offense had previously been convicted on at least 5 prior occasions.

Illegal aliens charged with unlawful reentry had the most extensive criminal histories. 90% had been previously arrested. Of those with a prior arrest, 50% had been arrested for violent or drug-related felonies.

Illegal aliens commit between 700,000 to 1,289,000 or more crimes per year.

Illegal aliens commit at least 2,158 murders each year – a number that represents three times greater participation than their proportion of the population.

Illegal alien sexual predators commit an estimated 130,909 sexual crimes each year.

There may be as many as 240,000 illegal alien sex offenders circulating throughout America. Based on studies, they will commit an average of 8 sex crimes per perpetrator before being caught.

Nearly 63% of illegal alien sex offenders had been deported on another offense prior to committing the sex crime.

Only 2% of the illegal alien sex offenders in one study had no history of criminal behavior, beyond crossing the border illegally.

In Operation Predator, ICE arrested and deported 6,085 illegal alien pedophiles. Some studies suggest each pedophile molests average of 148 children. If so, that could be as many as 900,580 victims.

Nobody knows how big the Sex Slave problem is but it is enormous.

The very brutal MS-13 gang has over 15,000 members and associates in at least 115 different cliques in 33 states.

The overall financial impact of illegal alien crimes is estimated at between $14.4 and $81 billion or more per year. Factor in the crime as a result of the cocaine and other drugs being smuggled in and the number may reach $150 billion per year.

http://www.usillegalaliens.com/impac...e_summary.html

I have a hard time believing these numbers.

There are 400k illegal alien criminals with deportation orders? There are 100k aliens that have been convicted of serious crimes walking the streets?

[Princess Doreen]

Constantly updated information on illegal immigration in the U.S.A.

http://immigrationcounters.com/

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Constantly updated information on illegal immigration in the U.S.A.

http://immigrationcounters.com/

You have to look at the numbers that they are posting and be a little skeptical. Accoring to that site there are 23 million illegals (including children). Also according to that 12 million skilled jobs are taken by illegals. Well if you subtract the school age kids and add another million or two that arent old enough for school or pregnant mothers or elderly or unemployed (this is probably a low estimate by me), then you are saying that 12 million out of the 16 milion workers here illegally are working at skilled jobs. Yeah right....

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Constantly updated information on illegal immigration in the U.S.A.

http://immigrationcounters.com/

You do realize these are strictly estimates right?

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You do realize these are strictly estimates right?

When anything gets into that high numbers, it becomes an estimate.

Chuck, it would appear that any information that puts ILLEGAL immigration in a bad light does not settle well with you.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

When anything gets into that high numbers, it becomes an estimate.

Chuck, it would appear that any information that puts ILLEGAL immigration in a bad light does not settle well with you.

No inaccurate information from laughingly biased sites does not settle well. Getting "rid of" illegal aliens will make your life more expensive and is another enormously misunderstood issue because of the misuse of information. If it costs 500 bilion to secure the border that 113 billion that illegals are supposedly costs us would look like a drop in the bucket.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No inaccurate information from laughingly biased sites does not settle well. Getting "rid of" illegal aliens will make your life more expensive and is another enormously misunderstood issue because of the misuse of information. If it costs 500 bilion to secure the border that 113 billion that illegals are supposedly costs us would look like a drop in the bucket.

Then I guess, according to your way of thinking, we should just open up the borders and let anyone just march in as they damn well please.

http://www.illegalimmigrationstatistics.org/

[Danzig]

i'm absolutely sure, princess, that's exactly what he means. people always go from one extreme to another, and then wonder why their opinion gets discounted.

if you actually got rid of everyone here that wasn't a citizen, the price of goods would skyrocket, and the deficit would skyrocket.
by the same token, if you made a path to citizenship for all here illegally, the same would happen.
if you 'let them all in', we'd have a mess as well. the govt is doing it's very best to act as tho they want to change things, while keeping the status quo, as economically it makes the most sense. illegals who commit crimes are unwelcome here. the problem with that part of it is no one has a crystal ball to see the future and recognize ahead of time who those people are.

most illegals that some on here are in a rush to disparage are hard working folks who only seek to make a better life. they come here to work because it's better than at home, with them trading better pay and working conditions for feeding our federal budget with nothing to show for it later.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Then I guess, according to your way of thinking, we should just open up the borders and let anyone just march in as they damn well please.

http://www.illegalimmigrationstatistics.org/

According to the information that you have given us that is already the case.

The point I am trying to make isnt that we shouldn't tighten our borders to stem the tide of illegals entering the country. It is that they contribute quite a bit yet those contributions are often twisted or simply overrlooked when trying to understand the issue.

Perhaps the best way to solve the issue wil never be done because of political pandering, that is to come up with a much better work visa program.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Then I guess, according to your way of thinking, we should just open up the borders and let anyone just march in as they damn well please.

http://www.illegalimmigrationstatistics.org/

what a stupid post