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Old 02-04-2011, 01:34 PM
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Old 02-04-2011, 01:49 PM
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Why is it nuts you didnt think Coolmoore was going to pay to get him in the shed and then not support him?
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Old 02-04-2011, 02:01 PM
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I don't think this is a big surprise. Especially since a lot of the mares mentioned are getting up there in age and breeders like to match them with younger stallions. $35k is a pretty reasonable fee.
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Old 02-04-2011, 02:17 PM
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Despite the lacking competition, he is a back to back champ with a solid record.
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Old 02-04-2011, 02:57 PM
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I'm aware it's Coolmore, but I'm not aware that Coolmore owns most of those mares listed.

I've liked Lucky since his early 2yo season, but still, there are better stallions at better prices.

Hell, Indian Charlie to this day doesn't get overall books like that!
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Old 02-04-2011, 04:12 PM
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I'm aware it's Coolmore, but I'm not aware that Coolmore owns most of those mares listed.

I've liked Lucky since his early 2yo season, but still, there are better stallions at better prices.

Hell, Indian Charlie to this day doesn't get overall books like that!
You are missing the point. If you are breeding to sell having Coolmoore and clients supporting you doesnt suck. You have Baffert and his clan. Pegram has always supported whatever he has owned to a point. Plus Lucky is a Smart Strike so it isn't impossible that Farish and friends would be interested in a nice filly or two.
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Old 02-04-2011, 05:08 PM
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I get all that.

It's just nuts to send that many quality mares, in the grand scheme of things, to that stallion.

I understand why it's being done. I just think it's pretty dumb.
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Old 02-04-2011, 07:00 PM
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Act least the horse came back as a 3 year old and ran well. No reason he cant be a good stallion. Maybe he is a complete flop? All of a sudden Mineshaft is showing some life?
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Old 02-04-2011, 07:19 PM
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Of all the horses going to stud this year I think LaL has the best chance to be a big time sire. By far.
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Old 02-04-2011, 07:57 PM
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I'd agree that the prospective first crop sires this year isn't great, and that LaL is up there among the best of them, but he lacks brilliance.

He was a solid and consistent performer in an abysmal time for racing.

FuPeg at half the price is ten times better the value. Maybe more.
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:01 PM
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Of all the horses going to stud this year I think LaL has the best chance to be a big time sire. By far.
Shocking you like a Smart Strike..lol

What's wrong with Eskendereya? I wouldn't be surprised if he was a terriffic stallion. But who the .......... really knows anymore
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:09 PM
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Of all the horses going to stud this year I think LaL has the best chance to be a big time sire. By far.
I am surprised you think Lookin at Lucky will be a better stud then Zenyatta...How could you?
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:10 PM
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I'd agree that the prospective first crop sires this year isn't great, and that LaL is up there among the best of them, but he lacks brilliance.

He was a solid and consistent performer in an abysmal time for racing.

FuPeg at half the price is ten times better the value. Maybe more.
Fu Peg burned more money then Custer killed Indians...Charlie
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:18 PM
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Fu Peg burned more money then Custer killed Indians...Charlie
He's had some really nice runners however. Granted he did not live up to expectations as a sire, but he's still pretty useful, especially at 15k.
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:28 PM
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I'd agree that the prospective first crop sires this year isn't great, and that LaL is up there among the best of them, but he lacks brilliance.

He was a solid and consistent performer in an abysmal time for racing.

FuPeg at half the price is ten times better the value. Maybe more.
Fupeg has so many bad foals that no one bothers
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:29 PM
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He's had some really nice runners however. Granted he did not live up to expectations as a sire, but he's still pretty useful, especially at 15k.
WHO???
What decent runners he's thrown have been fillies.

I think he may have a chance to be a decent broodmare sire but, there wouldn't be value in breeding to FuPeg if he was free.
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:31 PM
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Shocking you like a Smart Strike..lol

What's wrong with Eskendereya? I wouldn't be surprised if he was a terriffic stallion. But who the .......... really knows anymore
Not a fan of sons of Giants Causeway at stud
GC sires brittle horses better suited to the turf
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:32 PM
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I am surprised you think Lookin at Lucky will be a better stud then Zenyatta...How could you?
She is infertile
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:35 PM
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He's had some really nice runners however. Granted he did not live up to expectations as a sire, but he's still pretty useful, especially at 15k.
He gets a ton of nightmares though. He was bred to a million mares, many very good mares at one time. Plus unless the foals are perfect people are reluctant to pay good money for them because of how crazy and unsound they are.
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Old 02-04-2011, 08:36 PM
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Fupeg has so many bad foals that no one bothers
Admittedly, I'm not privy to such things.

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WHO???
What decent runners he's thrown have been fillies.
Roman Ruler.
Bandini.
The BC Turf runner up, Champ Pegasus

He also had some Aussie superstar, Hardsun, or something like that.
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