Founding fathers liked taxed government health care

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

Do you think that there are some, if not many or most, getting "government handouts" (Medicaid, unemployment, SCHIPS for kids, etc) that are not deadbeats? That these programs do serve as a safety net for our fellow Americans who are suffering a rough time? That folks get off these programs as soon as they can?

Did I say everyone was a deadbeat? I pass by a food bank in my area when I go to my Post Office Box and check to see if I have any mail. Most of these people who are there have a nicer vehicle than me. Im sure it is in a relative or child's name. Yet that person is paying for the car and insurance.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Did I say everyone was a deadbeat?

I'm just trying to find out if you think the programs themselves are all inherently bad, and should be eliminated (like Dell does); or the programs are good but who gets aid needs to be carefully screened, etc.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'm just trying to find out if you think the programs themselves are all inherently bad, and should be eliminated (like Dell does); or the programs are good but who gets aid needs to be carefully screened, etc.

Better screening at who gets the aid needs to be done. Yes some people have fallen on hard times and need the assistance for a few months. I don't want to see a family starve or not have a roof to live under.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Better screening at who gets the aid needs to be done. Yes some people have fallen on hard times and need the assistance for a few months. I don't want to see a family starve or not have a roof to live under.

You don't care so much that you need a new signature to tell people you don't care.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

You don't care so much that you need a new signature to tell people you don't care.

You love the new signature. Excellent. Im going play to into what you and others think of me.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Did I say everyone was a deadbeat? I pass by a food bank in my area when I go to my Post Office Box and check to see if I have any mail. Most of these people who are there have a nicer vehicle than me. Im sure it is in a relative or child's name. Yet that person is paying for the car and insurance.

I think alot of people who used to have good jobs have lost them, and yes, they still have the nice cars (and yes, the insurance hopefully) and the nice houses that went with having that money - but they need help to eat if they have families and kids.

Should they sell the car and buy a used beater, use the difference for food? Possibly, but I'm sure they just want help until they are employed again. Most charity places don't ask questions, but I can't imagine that people that don't need the help, and can afford all the groceries they want, are abusing it to walk in there to get free cans of soup and boxes of macaroni and cheese.

the only way to financial peace is to walk with the Prince of Peace, and that's Jesus Christ

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

the only way to financial peace is to walk with the Prince of Peace, and that's Jesus Christ

I'm sure you just slipped this one in for the shock value!

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

I think alot of people who used to have good jobs have lost them, and yes, they still have the nice cars (and yes, the insurance hopefully) and the nice houses that went with having that money - but they need help to eat if they have families and kids.

Should they sell the car and buy a used beater, use the difference for food? Possibly, but I'm sure they just want help until they are employed again. Most charity places don't ask questions, but I can't imagine that people that don't need the help, and can afford all the groceries they want, are abusing it to walk in there to get free cans of soup and boxes of macaroni and cheese.

There is such as a thing as living within your means.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by Riot

I think alot of people who used to have good jobs have lost them, and yes, they still have the nice cars (and yes, the insurance hopefully) and the nice houses that went with having that money - but they need help to eat if they have families and kids.

Should they sell the car and buy a used beater, use the difference for food? Possibly, but I'm sure they just want help until they are employed again. Most charity places don't ask questions, but I can't imagine that people that don't need the help, and can afford all the groceries they want, are abusing it to walk in there to get free cans of soup and boxes of macaroni and cheese.

In your area people might not be abusing it. Here where im at there is no doubt people are abusing it.