Obamacare

[dellinger63]

Not the overly bloated, bureaucratic, government controlled, socialistic conceived and designed nightmare, in need of immediate repeal, but rather the care of Obama going?

Not so good I take it….


http://www.nationalenquirer.com/obam...elebrity/70029

[jms62]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Not the overly bloated, bureaucratic, government controlled, socialistic conceived and designed nightmare, in need of immediate repeal, but rather the care of Obama going?

Not so good I take it….


http://www.nationalenquirer.com/obam...elebrity/70029

You are reduced to posting things from the National_Fuc<king Enquirer to make a point about healthcare... You missed making a point by at least 31 lengths.

[geeker2]

Not so quick..this was pretty good !!

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/jenn...elebrity/70022

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by jms62

You are reduced to posting things from the National_Fuc<king Enquirer to make a point about healthcare... You missed making a point by at least 31 lengths.

It all has to do with Hope and Change !!!!

[Princess Doreen]

Local paper

http://hamptonroads.com/node/585105

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Local paper

http://hamptonroads.com/node/585105

So a bunch of Republicans who everyone knows opposes the Health Care plan draft a bill that everyone knows will be ultimately voted down so just so they can later say they were against something everyone knew in the first place?

Brilliant

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by GBBob

So a bunch of Republicans who everyone knows opposes the Health Care plan draft a bill that everyone knows will be ultimately voted down so just so they can later say they were against something everyone knew in the first place?

Brilliant

ROR !! I never looked at it that way - but I think your decoder ring is working

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GBBob

So a bunch of Republicans who everyone knows opposes the Health Care plan draft a bill that everyone knows will be ultimately voted down so just so they can later say they were against something everyone knew in the first place?

Brilliant

You ask for a bill/plan and dismiss it before knowing what's in it? Sounds very familiar but at least it makes enough sense to read.

Unlike the Obama bill poor ole Sen Conyers, his jailbird wife and son who stole his gov. vehicle didn't have time for but carry on.

[Princess Doreen]

There's a lot of "rethinking" going on on the left. Would love to see it come down to a Presidential veto.

House just voted 245 - 189.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41149463...s-capitol_hill

[AeWingnut]

unfortunately there are not enough conservatives in the senate
ok
in government

Durbin is such a smug bastardo
He knows it isn't who votes but who counts the votes

[Riot]

Republican waste of our time and money. They have already failed to keep most of their promises in their silly contract (no "replace" was offered up, as promised). The GOP no longer even has public support for this theatrical waste of our time, the majority want to keep the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, or improve it/make it stronger. Some provisions have already kicked in, and the public doesn't want to give them up.

Jobs, guys. Jobs and economy.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by jms62

You are reduced to posting things from the National_Fuc<king Enquirer to make a point about healthcare... You missed making a point by at least 31 lengths.

No, Dell really does believe the President has intestinal parasites

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

There's a lot of "rethinking" going on on the left.

LOL. No, there's not.

Eric Cantor came out today and said they (the GOP) want to talk to Harry Reid and get the House bill to the Senate floor somehow for PR, and the way to do it is try to get the tanning booth tax repealed (which the Dems would go for) and Cantor actually said, "That's what we wanted anyway".

Sure you did, Eric

Meanwhile, Vermont is trying to opt out of the federal program, so they can initiate a statewide single payer system. Some states "get it".

Good thing Congresswoman Giffords has federal health care, because if it had been any average uninsured American, they wouldn't get any rehab at all, and they'd spend the rest of their life trying to pay down the $80K hospital bill.

Many "insured" Americans would be paying their 20% on that hospital bill, about 50% on the rehab (and only get 6 weeks worth) - and be forever excluded from any future claims for things like seizure, headache, neurological problems including stroke, etc.

Yes, let's remove the in-place law of the land that says insurance companies can't do that any more - that's what the GOP wants.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

Republican waste of our time and money. They have already failed to keep most of their promises in their silly contract (no "replace" was offered up, as promised). The GOP no longer even has public support for this theatrical waste of our time, the majority want to keep the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, or improve it/make it stronger. Some provisions have already kicked in, and the public doesn't want to give them up.

Jobs, guys. Jobs and economy.

I disagree. The more time these idiots spend arguing about things that will never happen , the LESS time they spend wasting more hundreds of billions of dollars that they have to borrow from Obamas house guest, The Exalted Hu Jitsu, while they eat Kobe steaks and play footsie.

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Riot

Republican waste of our time and money. They have already failed to keep most of their promises in their silly contract (no "replace" was offered up, as promised). The GOP no longer even has public support for this theatrical waste of our time, the majority want to keep the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, or improve it/make it stronger. Some provisions have already kicked in, and the public doesn't want to give them up.

Jobs, guys. Jobs and economy.

Besides the fact and l'll quote that "we are gifted with a health care plan that was written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it. Passed by a Congress that didn't read it, but exempt themselves from it, signed by a President who also had not read it and is a chain smoker, with funding administered by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that is bankrupt," the Republicans are just trying to follow through with their campaign promises. (Something that helps with trying to get re-elected) Obviously they don't have a chance in he.ll to pass it.

4 doctors were elected to this years congress (all Republicans) on the platform that they aren't politicians, but they are actual doctors with experience that may be ideal on how healthcare needs to be handled. One big sticking point is how its being financed. These people would not had been elected if the voters didn't have an issue with Obamacare.

Plus now you have 26 states filing lawsuits against Obamacare.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Besides the fact and l'll quote that "we are gifted with a health care plan that was written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it. Passed by a Congress that didn't read it, but exempt themselves from it, signed by a President who also had not read it and is a chain smoker, with funding administered by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that is bankrupt," the Republicans are just trying to follow through with their campaign promises. (Something that helps with trying to get re-elected) Obviously they don't have a chance in he.ll to pass it.

4 doctors were elected to this years congress (all Republicans) on the platform that they aren't politicians, but they are actual doctors with experience that may be ideal on how healthcare needs to be handled. One big sticking point is how its being financed. These people would not had been elected if the voters didn't have an issue with Obamacare.

Plus now you have 26 states filing lawsuits against Obamacare.

Well put! I don't understand why Reid won't let it go to a vote in the Senate. It makes him look like a Fool. I doubt it would pass, and if it did, Obama would surely veto. What does he have to lose? It might even help some of his Dems keep their seats in 2012.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Besides the fact and l'll quote that "we are gifted with a health care plan that was written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it. Passed by a Congress that didn't read it, but exempt themselves from it, signed by a President who also had not read it and is a chain smoker, with funding administered by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that is bankrupt," the Republicans are just trying to follow through with their campaign promises. (Something that helps with trying to get re-elected) Obviously they don't have a chance in he.ll to pass it.

4 doctors were elected to this years congress (all Republicans) on the platform that they aren't politicians, but they are actual doctors with experience that may be ideal on how healthcare needs to be handled. One big sticking point is how its being financed. These people would not had been elected if the voters didn't have an issue with Obamacare.

Plus now you have 26 states filing lawsuits against Obamacare.

Are you talking about the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act? The passed bill has been out (geesh, it's been on the internet for months) and it's pretty apparent from yesterday's Congressional floor that everybody has indeed read it, and understand it very well.

The lawsuits are PR from GOP states, and only against one provision of the bill, not the entire bill. Those lawsuits have been thrown out due to no merit in 14 states, the provision has been ruled constitutional in 2, and ruled unconstitutional in 1.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Well put! I don't understand why Reid won't let it go to a vote in the Senate. It makes him look like a Fool. I doubt it would pass, and if it did, Obama would surely veto. What does he have to lose? It might even help some of his Dems keep their seats in 2012.

No, the GOP look like fools, trying to repeal legislation that passed last year, that is now the law of the land, which the vast majority of the population now supports.

Hey, GOP - take your "control of Congress" and do something about a high unemployment rate, and the economy. Although, hilariously, the GOP who said they would cut cut cut, and look at all spending, now this week are backtracking, and are saying they are waiting for Obama to say what he wants to cut. Huh? No balls at all, GOP? Always and only worried about future elections?

The GOP simply can't govern. I'm starting to see that accusation is true. They know how to campaign, they know how to campaign fight, but over the past 50 years, they have proven they simply don't know how to switch gears when they are elected, and actually DO something.

[SOREHOOF]

I don't think any of these idiots can govern. Either side. What do you think about the debt ceiling?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

I don't think any of these idiots can govern. Either side. What do you think about the debt ceiling?

How many years can they go on just enlarging it? But it needs to be enlarged, we cannot default. The Tea Party guys who are going to vote no on extending it are not being responsible or realistic. Look what happened to Chris Christie and his little yak and what it did to NJ bonds the other day. Defaulting is serious, and real. I see some Congressmen saying, "We'll vote not to raise the debt ceiling, and we'll pass a law we can't default" HUH? C'mon guys, use the brain, the brain! You can't do two opposing things at the same time

GOP put out a list of possible spending cuts today - they completely ignored Defense. Sigh.

I'm seriously pretty angry that the tax cuts for the top 1% of earners in the country, those making over a million, were extended, because that would have been a huge, massive reduction of the debt. By about 1/3. That combined with spending cuts ... would have been easy, and perfect and painless for everyone.