Obamacare

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Riot

Republican waste of our time and money. They have already failed to keep most of their promises in their silly contract (no "replace" was offered up, as promised). The GOP no longer even has public support for this theatrical waste of our time, the majority want to keep the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, or improve it/make it stronger. Some provisions have already kicked in, and the public doesn't want to give them up.

Jobs, guys. Jobs and economy.

Besides the fact and l'll quote that "we are gifted with a health care plan that was written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it. Passed by a Congress that didn't read it, but exempt themselves from it, signed by a President who also had not read it and is a chain smoker, with funding administered by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that is bankrupt," the Republicans are just trying to follow through with their campaign promises. (Something that helps with trying to get re-elected) Obviously they don't have a chance in he.ll to pass it.

4 doctors were elected to this years congress (all Republicans) on the platform that they aren't politicians, but they are actual doctors with experience that may be ideal on how healthcare needs to be handled. One big sticking point is how its being financed. These people would not had been elected if the voters didn't have an issue with Obamacare.

Plus now you have 26 states filing lawsuits against Obamacare.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Besides the fact and l'll quote that "we are gifted with a health care plan that was written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it. Passed by a Congress that didn't read it, but exempt themselves from it, signed by a President who also had not read it and is a chain smoker, with funding administered by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that is bankrupt," the Republicans are just trying to follow through with their campaign promises. (Something that helps with trying to get re-elected) Obviously they don't have a chance in he.ll to pass it.

4 doctors were elected to this years congress (all Republicans) on the platform that they aren't politicians, but they are actual doctors with experience that may be ideal on how healthcare needs to be handled. One big sticking point is how its being financed. These people would not had been elected if the voters didn't have an issue with Obamacare.

Plus now you have 26 states filing lawsuits against Obamacare.

Well put! I don't understand why Reid won't let it go to a vote in the Senate. It makes him look like a Fool. I doubt it would pass, and if it did, Obama would surely veto. What does he have to lose? It might even help some of his Dems keep their seats in 2012.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

Well put! I don't understand why Reid won't let it go to a vote in the Senate. It makes him look like a Fool. I doubt it would pass, and if it did, Obama would surely veto. What does he have to lose? It might even help some of his Dems keep their seats in 2012.

No, the GOP look like fools, trying to repeal legislation that passed last year, that is now the law of the land, which the vast majority of the population now supports.

Hey, GOP - take your "control of Congress" and do something about a high unemployment rate, and the economy. Although, hilariously, the GOP who said they would cut cut cut, and look at all spending, now this week are backtracking, and are saying they are waiting for Obama to say what he wants to cut. Huh? No balls at all, GOP? Always and only worried about future elections?

The GOP simply can't govern. I'm starting to see that accusation is true. They know how to campaign, they know how to campaign fight, but over the past 50 years, they have proven they simply don't know how to switch gears when they are elected, and actually DO something.

[SOREHOOF]

I don't think any of these idiots can govern. Either side. What do you think about the debt ceiling?

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

I don't think any of these idiots can govern. Either side. What do you think about the debt ceiling?

How many years can they go on just enlarging it? But it needs to be enlarged, we cannot default. The Tea Party guys who are going to vote no on extending it are not being responsible or realistic. Look what happened to Chris Christie and his little yak and what it did to NJ bonds the other day. Defaulting is serious, and real. I see some Congressmen saying, "We'll vote not to raise the debt ceiling, and we'll pass a law we can't default" HUH? C'mon guys, use the brain, the brain! You can't do two opposing things at the same time

GOP put out a list of possible spending cuts today - they completely ignored Defense. Sigh.

I'm seriously pretty angry that the tax cuts for the top 1% of earners in the country, those making over a million, were extended, because that would have been a huge, massive reduction of the debt. By about 1/3. That combined with spending cuts ... would have been easy, and perfect and painless for everyone.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

Besides the fact and l'll quote that "we are gifted with a health care plan that was written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it. Passed by a Congress that didn't read it, but exempt themselves from it, signed by a President who also had not read it and is a chain smoker, with funding administered by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that is bankrupt," the Republicans are just trying to follow through with their campaign promises. (Something that helps with trying to get re-elected) Obviously they don't have a chance in he.ll to pass it.

4 doctors were elected to this years congress (all Republicans) on the platform that they aren't politicians, but they are actual doctors with experience that may be ideal on how healthcare needs to be handled. One big sticking point is how its being financed. These people would not had been elected if the voters didn't have an issue with Obamacare.

Plus now you have 26 states filing lawsuits against Obamacare.

Are you talking about the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act? The passed bill has been out (geesh, it's been on the internet for months) and it's pretty apparent from yesterday's Congressional floor that everybody has indeed read it, and understand it very well.

The lawsuits are PR from GOP states, and only against one provision of the bill, not the entire bill. Those lawsuits have been thrown out due to no merit in 14 states, the provision has been ruled constitutional in 2, and ruled unconstitutional in 1.