AZ Congresswoman in critical condition after shooting

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Riot

What they didn't ask him, and what I would want to know, is would Joe have gone outside if he didn't have a gun on him? I would guess not. He still gets credit for being brave.

Arizona has the best gun laws out there (tho very unfortunate that this happened on Saturday). Its too bad an armed grocery store customer wasnt able to take the lunatic out before he shot so many people.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

Arizona has the best gun laws out there (tho very unfortunate that this happened on Saturday). Its too bad an armed grocery store customer wasnt able to take the lunatic out before he shot so many people.

A GOP Republican is going to submit legislation to make it illegal to carry a gun within 1000 feet of any member of Congress. I don't see the point, myself.

What about changing ammunition laws back to what they used to be, so you don't get to get off 30 shots in seconds?

Or maybe having to fill out a permit to carry? It's easier to buy that gun and ammunition than it is to get Sudafed OTC in AZ.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

A GOP Republican is going to submit legislation to make it illegal to carry a gun within 1000 feet of any member of Congress. I don't see the point, myself.

What about changing ammunition laws back to what they used to be, so you don't get to get off 30 shots in seconds?

Or maybe having to fill out a permit to carry? It's easier to buy that gun and ammunition than it is to get Sudafed OTC in AZ.

They are. Just not in N.Y. and that didn't stop the insane creep that shot up the civic building in Binghamton almost 2 years ago. 14 dead. Not political. Just insane. If you think your Govt. can protect you from crazy people and random acts of violence by passing laws you are very wrong. Sometimes bad things happen to good people. That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Everyone should be armed. The good people still outnumber the bad by a large margin.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

If you think your Govt. can protect you from crazy people and random acts of violence by passing laws you are very wrong. Sometimes bad things happen to good people. That's just the way the cookie crumbles. Everyone should be armed. The good people still outnumber the bad by a large margin.

I'm not ready to get rid of laws that say robbery and murder are punishable offenses, thanks. I do suspect there is a bit of a deterrent factor there.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'm not ready to get rid of laws that say robbery and murder are punishable offenses, thanks. I do suspect there is a bit of a deterrent factor there.

I don't want to either. But if a criminal thinks everyone in a given place may be armed he (or she) might decide to go after easier prey. I know you aren't anti gun. There has been no uptick in crimes like this since the ban on these magazines expired 7 years ago. The "assault weapon" ban did nothing to protect anyone although I'm sure it made a lot of progressive politicians feel good about themselves.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

I don't want to either. But if a criminal thinks everyone in a given place may be armed he (or she) might decide to go after easier prey. I know you aren't anti gun. There has been no uptick in crimes like this since the ban on these magazines expired 7 years ago. The "assault weapon" ban did nothing to protect anyone although I'm sure it made a lot of progressive politicians feel good about themselves.

I'm trying to remember the name of the movie, where the guy in public pulls a gun, and everyone (civilians, old ladies, etc) around him pulls theirs and draws down on him .... c'mon, what was that movie?

The only reason they could tackle this guy was the halt to reload. Everyone was still there. Thank god they took him down. Go, senior citizens!

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Riot

I'm trying to remember the name of the movie, where the guy in public pulls a gun, and everyone (civilians, old ladies, etc) around him pulls theirs and draws down on him .... c'mon, what was that movie?

The only reason they could tackle this guy was the halt to reload. Everyone was still there. Thank god they took him down. Go, senior citizens!

I remember that scene too. If he had another weapon he wouldn't have had to stop. 1 30 rounder or 3 10's doesn't matter. This guy was out to kill as many innocent people as he could. I can't get over that smirk in the mug shot. I do believe he is insane, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him not convicted because of it. I don't think that's right, but that's what it appears to me.