AZ Congresswoman in critical condition after shooting

[Nascar1966]

Some one help me out here. How are Sarah Palin and the Tea Party to be blamed for this tragic event? I know Palin made the map showing where the people who voted yes to Obamacare lives. There is a certain time and place when politics has no business being brought up, yet it was yesterday after that coward killed and injured alot of people. Hopefully this coward gets the lethal injection he deserves and our taxpaying money wont be wasted on him spending the rest of his life in the funny farm.

[Princess Doreen]

The devil lives, and I sometimes think HE is winning the battle between good and evil.

I've never followed Sarah Palin around like she's some kind of know all, be all, end all solution to the country's political ills. But, I certainly don't think she meant her crosshairs image to mean death to those with whom she disagreed. How much hatred and vitriol has been heaped on her and her family?!~

Do I think such visual images or political rhetoric cause the actions of nutcases like this most recent one? Absolutely not. These people are so wrapped up in their own agenda, they don't care what anyone else says - not even the people who agree with them. They want the last word, they want the spotlight shone on them. This guy's bolt needed tightening on a daily basis. This guy sent out all kinds of warning signals, yet no one intervened. Our laws protect people like this. They're given a pass until they do something illegal. YET, people want to muzzle the media and take away free speech. I can't comprehend the double standard.

By far, nothing comes close to the hatred, vitriol, and violence of those times - the 60's. Perhaps the lessons learned have been forgotten.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxUuDPNbkJk

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

The devil lives, and I sometimes think HE is winning the battle between good and evil.

I've never followed Sarah Palin around like she's some kind of know all, be all, end all solution to the country's political ills. But, I certainly don't think she meant her crosshairs image to mean death to those with whom she disagreed. How much hatred and vitriol has been heaped on her and her family?!~

Do I think such visual images or political rhetoric cause the actions of nutcases like this most recent one? Absolutely not. These people are so wrapped up in their own agenda, they don't care what anyone else says - not even the people who agree with them. They want the last word, they want the spotlight shone on them. This guy's bolt needed tightening on a daily basis. This guy sent out all kinds of warning signals, yet no one intervened. Our laws protect people like this. They're given a pass until they do something illegal. YET, people want to muzzle the media and take away free speech. I can't comprehend the double standard.

By far, nothing comes close to the hatred, vitriol, and violence of those times - the 60's. Perhaps the lessons learned have been forgotten.

OH, i agree. it's definitely the devil.

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by Danzig

OH, i agree. it's definitely the devil.

anyone who believes in the devil is just as nuts

( no disrespect to The Devil who posts here on DT )

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

anyone who believes in the devil is just as nuts

( no disrespect to The Devil who posts here on DT )

Ah, yes, freedom of speech is very much not in favor by some here at DT.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Ah, yes, freedom of speech is very much not in favor by some here at DT.

really? who got censored? fined? jailed for a post?

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by Danzig

really? who got censored? fined? jailed for a post?

Oh, only the extremes count? How about someone calling you nuts for your opinion? Yeah, that's freedom of speech, as well. I know, I get it. But, I'm not calling anyone nuts for disagreeing with me.

How many people ask "WHY" when something like this happens? That's how I explain it to myself.

This is not about ME, however. Prayers for Rep. Giffords.

[herkhorse]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Ah, yes, freedom of speech is very much not in favor by some here at DT.

Who said anything about freedom of speech? You exercised your right by saying you believe in the devil, and I exercised mine by saying you're full of s.hit. What's the problem.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

Who said anything about freedom of speech? You exercised your right by saying you believe in the devil, and I exercised mine by saying you're full of s.hit. What's the problem.

You have selective reading problems. I already said that you had the right to disagree with me. However, calling someone nuts of FoS because you disagree with them is definitely devil rhetoric.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Princess Doreen

Ah, yes, freedom of speech is very much not in favor by some here at DT.

Danzig already pointed out how ludicrous your statement was here, but seriously....what the hell are you talking about? The first amendment right to "freedom of speech" protects citizens from the government depriving a citizen of the right of "freedom of speech." Do you actually think it also protects you from being called crazy because of something you posted on a horse racing message board? You don't really think that....do you?

[miraja2]

Like most people I have no freaking idea what motivated the shooter. It might be worth considering however that when you get to the fringes of the anti-government movement, the line between "left-wing" and "right-wing" get rather blurry. Radicals often move pretty fluidly from hardcore marxism (the "left") to hardcore anarchism (the "right") in their attempts to bring down the government (or whatever their personal motive might be). Labels are therefore often inaccurate or misleading, and in my opinion make it even more ridiculous for anyone on either side to try to score cheap partisan political points off of the incident.

[Princess Doreen]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Danzig already pointed out how ludicrous your statement was here, but seriously....what the hell are you talking about? The first amendment right to "freedom of speech" protects citizens from the government depriving a citizen of the right of "freedom of speech." Do you actually think it also protects you from being called crazy because of something you posted on a horse racing message board? You don't really think that....do you?

Oh, please - I thought the eyeroll icon was being overused, but I see I should have included it in my response. Sure people are free to say what they wish. I would think, however, that a difference of opinion would be followed by civil discourse rather than labeling someone nuts or full of it because they have a differing opinion - even on a horse racing board.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Some one help me out here. How are Sarah Palin and the Tea Party to be blamed for this tragic event? I know Plain made the map showing where the people who voted yes to Obamacare lives. There is a certain time and place when politics has no business being brought up, yet it was yesterday after that coward killed and injured alot of people. Hopefully this coward gets the lethal injection he deserves and our taxpaying money wont be wasted on him spending the rest of his life in the funny farm.

What kind of message does the Gunsite send? Obviously the dickwad got the message... There will be more of this and it will spread to heads of industry.. What a sick fu<king state of affairs.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

What kind of message does the Gunsite send? Obviously the dickwad got the message... There will be more of this and it will spread to heads of industry.. What a sick fu<king state of affairs.

Your saying it was Palin's fault? If someone told you to rob a bank are you going to rob it?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Your saying it was Palin's fault? If someone told you to rob a bank are you going to rob it?

Hitler never actually gassed anyone himself, so with your Distorted Logic he wasn't responsible for the Holocaust? So the gunsites are ok by you and you can't see how it sends a negative message?

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by jms62

Hitler never actually gassed anyone himself, so with your Distorted Logic he wasn't responsible for the Holocaust? So the gunsites are ok by you and you can't see how it sends a negative message?

Didnt Obama tell this country not to jump to any conclusions? I never did say that the I was ok with the map that Palin put up. Your wanting to put words in my mouth or ASSUME go right on ahead and do so. It's not the 1st time you have tried to put words in my mouth and im sure it wont be the last time. I also never said anything about approving the gunsites. If you want to think that I approve go right on ahead, trust me I will continue to sleep good at night.

HAVE A NICE DAY.