Mine that Bird- retired

[joeydb]

Great Derby run and one I'll always remember. From last to first, on the rail, in the mud... great stuff.

[cakes44]

He had a better career than the last Derby winner.

[letswastemoney]

I think people are underestimating just how bad D Wayne Lukas is.

Give him to Chip Wooley and I believe he would start hitting the board again in dirt races. But the owners are too blind to see the negative Lukas factor.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I think people are underestimating just how bad D Wayne Lukas is.

Give him to Chip Wooley and I believe he would start hitting the board again in dirt races. But the owners are too blind to see the negative Lukas factor.

Funny Cide went to Finger Lakes to find winning form, why doesn't this horse start back at Sunland or Zia Park? Maybe he'll come around enough to head back to the big circuits.

Funny Cide went to Woodbine, too, where this horse won several races at 2.

[slotdirt]

I'd say Giacomo was still the bigger "upset" in that there were actually a couple horses in the sophomore class of 2005 that ran in the Derby and actually ended up having some talent.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

I'd say Giacomo was still the bigger "upset" in that there were actually a couple horses in the sophomore class of 2005 that ran in the Derby and actually ended up having some talent.

Giacomo was actually one of the winter book favorites for the Derby after his Hollywood Futurity effort.

He wasn't totally hopeless, but from his preps and subsequent career he was basically a bridesmaid.

Mine That Bird and Canonero II were completely illogical.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Giacomo was actually one of the winter book favorites for the Derby after his Hollywood Futurity effort.

He wasn't totally hopeless, but from his preps and subsequent career he was basically a bridesmaid.

Mine That Bird and Canonero II were completely illogical.

The day of the race Mine That Bird was available at 200-1 offshore and on Betfair.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

I think people are underestimating just how bad D Wayne Lukas is.

Give him to Chip Wooley and I believe he would start hitting the board again in dirt races. But the owners are too blind to see the negative Lukas factor.

Wow.

Chip Wooley is a positive factor? He was an okay 2 year old on synth that got pretty good for about 5 weeks as a 3 year old. He was never going to get back to that form. His owners were a bit overzealous with his placings this year and were too stubborn to run him where he belongs.

Lukas is a shell of his former self, but give me a break with some of this.

[Merlinsky]

I feel like MTB just decided he was done. "Silent Tom" Smith couldn't have snapped him out of it. It's a shame. He looked so much better, and you really rooted for the lil guy, but it wasn't to be.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by cakes44

He had a better career than the last Derby winner.

good point.

he is an ambassador for the sport now.

may he live a long happy life.