Mike Vick

RockHardTen1985 · #1 11-16-2010, 09:05 PM

What Vick did was wrong, but he did the time IMO. He lost a ton of $ also.
He is on pace to be comeback player of the year, most improved and NFL MVP. With all the Packers injuries they also have to be the favorite right now in the NFC.
I for one think its a fine story.

dalakhani · #2 11-16-2010, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

What Vick did was wrong, but he did the time IMO. He lost a ton of $ also.
He is on pace to be comeback player of the year, most improved and NFL MVP. With all the Packers injuries they also have to be the favorite right now in the NFC.
I for one think its a fine story.

The problem I have with gb is that they can't run nor can they consistently stop the run. That team type of team doesn't go far.

Watch the saints now that sharper is back. Atl, NO and Phil are only legit contenders in Nfc.

RockHardTen1985 · #3 11-17-2010, 01:44 AM

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The problem I have with gb is that they can't run nor can they consistently stop the run. That team type of team doesn't go far.

Watch the saints now that sharper is back. Atl, NO and Phil are only legit contenders in Nfc.

GB cant run because they have been devestated with injuries. There tight end is a total stud, and Ryan Grant is solid enough. THe Giants were legit to me, but you cant lay that type of an egg IMO. I guess thats why it changes week to week. The problem I have with the Saints is this... I dont think they can win a playoff game in New York, Philly or GB, but if they get it going and get homefield they will be tough. As of now they are only 1 game behind Atlanta for homefield.

Crown@club · #4 11-17-2010, 11:16 AM

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GB cant run because they have been devestated with injuries. There tight end is a total stud, and Ryan Grant is solid enough. THe Giants were legit to me, but you cant lay that type of an egg IMO. I guess thats why it changes week to week. The problem I have with the Saints is this... I dont think they can win a playoff game in New York, Philly or GB, but if they get it going and get homefield they will be tough. As of now they are only 1 game behind Atlanta for homefield.

I think you are missing a sentence here or do I have to read inbetween the lines? Grant is done for the season, and Jackson has actually been playing better. There studly TE is also done for the season

Dahoss · #5 11-17-2010, 12:37 PM

I love the "he lost millions" arguement. It's not as though someone stole it from him. It's not like he got screwed over by someone. He went to prison. That is why he lost out on potential money. It was his own doing. I have a hard time being sympathetic to him because he did some horrible things and was punished for it.

He deserves a second chance, but it doesn't mean what he did is forgotten or okay.

Patrick333 · #6 11-17-2010, 02:13 PM

As an Eagle fan I do the same thing with Vick as I did with TO. I cheer for the number and not the player. It works for me.

clyde · #7 11-17-2010, 02:19 PM

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As an Eagle fan I do the same thing with Vick as I did with TO. I cheer for the number and not the player. It works for me.

Sawdust would work for you.

Antitrust32 · #8 11-17-2010, 02:40 PM

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I love the "he lost millions" arguement. It's not as though someone stole it from him. It's not like he got screwed over by someone. He went to prison. That is why he lost out on potential money. It was his own doing. I have a hard time being sympathetic to him because he did some horrible things and was punished for it.

He deserves a second chance, but it doesn't mean what he did is forgotten or okay.

It is nice to see he is taking advantage of his second chance. I really hope he is a changed man. We'll find out after he's finished with football if he really is changed. Its evident that he's extremely humbled though... his work ethic at the Eagles is a complete 180 from when he was in Atlanta.

Love him on the field though, he's playing out of his mind. Gotta give Andy props for teaching him how to be a quarterback and not just a spoiled athlete like he was in ATL.

MaTH716 · #9 11-17-2010, 02:47 PM

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It is nice to see he is taking advantage of his second chance. I really hope he is a changed man. We'll find out after he's finished with football if he really is changed. Its evident that he's extremely humbled though... his work ethic at the Eagles is a complete 180 from when he was in Atlanta.

Love him on the field though, he's playing out of his mind. Gotta give Andy props for teaching him how to be a quarterback and not just a spoiled athlete like he was in ATL.

Honestly, I would think that once he leaves the football field, no one will care what he does with his life.

The Indomitable DrugS · #10 11-17-2010, 03:46 PM

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Gotta give Andy props for teaching him how to be a quarterback and not just a spoiled athlete like he was in ATL.

Lonely time in a jail cell will leave a man with plenty of time to think, focus, and part with distractions. Even for a dummy like Ron Mexico Vick.

15 years ago - Randy Moss spent 60 days in jail - 10 of which in solitary confinement. When he got out - he walked on at Marshall and broke 54 NCAA records in just two years there... and caught 17 TD's and had the single greatest rookie season by a wideout in NFL history.

Ray Lewis was initally accused of a double murder - spent time in jail - got out and led the Ravens to a Super Bowl win that same year. He was defensive MVP of the regular season - the Super Bowl MVP - and the Ravens D that year was by far the best defense I've ever seen.

Andy Reid isn't going to teach him sh!t unless his mind is right and he wants to prove something. I bet Vick gets called a lot of names on the road as well. Instead of spreading his herpes under the alias Ron Mexico - and trying to be the Sheik Mohammed of the pit bull fighting world - he's out to try and rip up the NFL.

RockHardTen1985 · #11 11-17-2010, 02:10 PM

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I think you are missing a sentence here or do I have to read inbetween the lines? Grant is done for the season, and Jackson has actually been playing better. There studly TE is also done for the season

The first sentence was about the injuries, WTF?

randallscott35 · #12 11-16-2010, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

What Vick did was wrong, but he did the time IMO. He lost a ton of $ also.
He is on pace to be comeback player of the year, most improved and NFL MVP. With all the Packers injuries they also have to be the favorite right now in the NFC.
I for one think its a fine story.

He drowned dogs with his bare hands and electrocuted them as well. He admitted to this....Don't tell me he did his time.

RockHardTen1985 · #13 11-17-2010, 01:41 AM

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He drowned dogs with his bare hands and electrocuted them as well. He admitted to this....Don't tell me he did his time.

Listen Randy. I have dogs, my parents have dogs. My X fiances/kids mother has 2 dogs, and my current woman and I have a dog. I love dogs, but he did his time and it cost him, I think close to 100 million.

notyep59 · #14 11-17-2010, 07:08 AM

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Listen Randy. I have dogs, my parents have dogs. My X fiances/kids mother has 2 dogs, and my current woman and I have a dog. I love dogs, but he did his time and it cost him, I think close to 100 million.

my little brother's girlfriend's sister's roomate's aunt's friend has two cats that were chased by dogs, so i feel i can comment on this, too. screw vick, but only because he was a hokie.

SCUDSBROTHER · #15 11-17-2010, 02:12 PM

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Listen Randy. I have dogs, my parents have dogs. My X fiances/kids mother has 2 dogs, and my current woman and I have a dog. I love dogs, but he did his time and it cost him, I think close to 100 million.

There are 3 types of people. The first type can't kill anything. The most common type will kill in war, and other self defense situations. The other type will kill, because (inside of themselves) they like to kill. So, when you get upset, killing is the final option. When he gets upset, killing is one of his most natural options. The only thing keeping him from doing it is that he has been told it's unacceptable. That's flimsy. Will it hold up for another 50 years? Roll of the dice. Right now, he has a goal. He's being kept busy. When his career is over, he'll be looking for an adrenaline rush in other places.