Privman: Let the Horse of the Year Debate Begin

[prudery]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

So Zenyatta's camp are the only ones allowed to try to persuade voters then.



He may not have written the headline, but he took the angle that there is equal validity to both sides of the HOY 'debate' when there isn't. Ask any trainer other than John Shirreffs and they'll tell you who the winner is. Same thing with any owner outside of the Mosses. He also writes in the article 'There would be no debate had Zenyatta gotten up in the Classic.' So if a head makes that much difference in one direction, how come it doesn't in the other direction? The ESPN guys were smart enough to say after the race on Saturday that Blame should and will be HOY. Privman won't go that far for some reason.



Enough. Are you really one of the people who thinks it should be for the best horse and not the most accomplished? Uncle Mo and Zenyatta are both great, but both of their ontrack accomplishments are dwarfed by Blame's this year.

Are you really one of those people who have to inflate the accomplishments of a horse to inflate your point ??

No ones accomplishments actually dwarfed anyone else's before the BCC or after . Blame would have had to do a lot more than he did this year to dwarf anyone including Zenyatta, considering the complexion of the BCC, and I would say the same if the finish were reversed and her head had been in front .

Nobody was dwarfing any of OUR lot this year ...

More appropriate would have been to say that Blame 's accomplishments in your opinion exceeded both Zenyatta's and Uncle' Mo's by virtue of---list your facts .

"Dwarfed " is a rather bloated analysis--who are you trying to convince ???

As there is NO precise mandate as to what constitutes HOY as yet, it needn't be met with incredulity when someone might take another view within the better horse vs the most accomplished debacle---or the thought that there might be a combination of both, not either or.

All that is subjective in itself as well.

And are you truly calling Uncle Mo great after three races to date ???

Or was that just a convenient superlative ...

[ateamstupid]

For the love of fucl<. Schaefer, Foster, Whitney, BCC, 2nd in JCGC > Santa Margarita, Apple Blossom, Vanity, Clement L. Hirsch, Lady's Secret, 2nd in BCC. By a wide margin. It takes a lot of skill to write 9 paragraphs and not come up with one counter argument to the sentence you're disputing.

[prudery]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

For the love of fucl<. Schaefer, Foster, Whitney, BCC, 2nd in JCGC > Santa Margarita, Apple Blossom, Vanity, Clement L. Hirsch, Lady's Secret, 2nd in BCC. By a wide margin. It takes a lot of skill to write 9 paragraphs and not come up with one counter argument to the sentence you're disputing.

You either didn't read or get what I wrote-I wrote " state your facts " because I was too lazy to type them out--I already know them .I have the stats.

You are speaking of something I was not--I was discussing the word " dwarfed " I was not requesting proof of accomplishments at all.

You sir, are off course .

I am aware of who won what-- I am not aware that any such lists are facts of " dwarfing " .

Is that clear ???

[ateamstupid]

When you have no argument, you turn to semantics. I get it.

[prudery]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

When you have no argument, you turn to semantics. I get it.

No you don't get it but Drugs did a better job than I did to get the point across .

And BTW, I wasn't arguing --y tu ???

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by prudery

No you don't get it but Drugs did a better job than I did to get the point across .

There's a stunner.