Bring Zenyatta back in 2011!

[tector]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

As a fan of horse racing I want her back if they will take some chances... **** even if its the Gold Cup and Pacific Classic at home for her. I dont want her back running the same 2 campaigns from 2009 and 2010.

There would be no point to that. It is also far from a HOY path, as they know now. If they don't have a potential HOY campaign, what is the point (unless they just want to cherrypick Dubai).

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by tector

There would be no point to that. It is also far from a HOY path, as they know now. If they don't have a potential HOY campaign, what is the point (unless they just want to cherrypick Dubai).

How much $ of the all time earnings record is she? Would Dubai make her close?

[Dahoss]

I think there is no way she comes back. But if she does, no way she goes to Dubai. It makes a lot of sense, but they were afraid of shipping across the rockies. She's not shipping to Dubai.

[tector]

Without Dubai or a bona fide HOY campaign, just retire her.

[smartbid09]

Originally Posted by tector

Without Dubai or a bona fide HOY campaign, just retire her.

I do agree with this.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by tector

Without Dubai or a bona fide HOY campaign, just retire her.

And therein lies the problem. They'll never send her to Dubai and her connections and legion of fans think that Salted Margarita-Apple Blossom-Vanity-Hirsch-Lady's Secret-BCC is a HOY campaign, even if she loses the biggest one in that slate.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

And therein lies the problem. They'll never send her to Dubai and her connections and legion of fans think that Salted Margarita-Apple Blossom-Vanity-Hirsch-Lady's Secret-BCC is a HOY campaign, even if she loses the biggest one in that slate.

But the BCC win would make it HOY campaign, right? I mean if she beat Blame by a nose, is she a lock for HOY now?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

But the BCC win would make it HOY campaign, right? I mean if she beat Blame by a nose, is she a lock for HOY now?

Sure. There would have been a modicum of debate but I'm sure she would have gotten it and can say she would have deserved it given that QR ran miserably bad and Lookin at Lucky had no answer for the top two.

I'm against the categorical assertion that BC races are the be all, end all of Eclipse/HOY voting but when you have a horse that has had a campaign that included many weak races that loses the biggest race of her year, you can't vote that one HOY.

[tector]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

But the BCC win would make it HOY campaign, right? I mean if she beat Blame by a nose, is she a lock for HOY now?

Only because no one else had a great campaign. Look why why she lost in 2009. When you play it conservative, your fate can be in the hands of what others are doing. Her connections and fans just don't want to seem to acknowledge this obvious truth.

[brockguy]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

How much $ of the all time earnings record is she? Would Dubai make her close?

Another filly has this I think - Vodka at $13mil or it may still be TM Opera O