Zenyatta

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Nice to hear from tweedle dee and tweedle dum with their usual non sequitur cheap shots.

The horse lost by a HEAD, Joey. While she lost, she still ran SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER than any of her detractors thought she would. Rather than just stating this, which Beyer did in his latest article, some here feel the need to still come after her or anyone who appreciates her performance. This would be, among others, a group that held QR in high regard (even just before the Classic). Or thought that RA would beat Z or, even, that Blind Luck or even, laughably, LAL, were better than Z. Now, this isn't a bunch of know nothings; this is some of the better handicappers around. This typically constitutes STFU in most intelligent circles.

As for Cannon: he's already demonstrated he's clueless when it comes to evaluating races. In other words, his tripping skills are woeful. Now, he might be a better trainer than tripper but the quality of his stock, presently, doesn't support this. (I realize that he's waiting for the call by Darley or Repole.)

I do applaud his recent efforts on this thread however. Clearly, he has an axe to grind. And Z obviously shook his ass up by just missing. In this he had quite a bit of company.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

The horse lost by a HEAD, Joey. While she lost, she still ran SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER than any of her detractors thought she would. Rather than just stating this, which Beyer did in his latest article, some here feel the need to still come after her or anyone who appreciates her performance. This would be, among others, a group that held QR in high regard (even just before the Classic). Or thought that RA would beat Z or, even, that Blind Luck or even, laughably, LAL, were better than Z. Now, this isn't a bunch of know nothings; this is some of the better handicappers around. This typically constitutes STFU in most intelligent circles.

As for Cannon: he's already demonstrated he's clueless when it comes to evaluating races. In other words, his tripping skills are woeful. Now, he might be a better trainer than tripper but the quality of his stock, presently, doesn't support this. (I realize that he's waiting for the call by Darley or Repole.)

I do applaud his recent efforts on this thread however. Clearly, he has an axe to grind. And Z obviously shook his ass up by just missing. In this he had quite a bit of company.

He's the only one making any sense in this thread. And he destroyed The Bid with facts rather than speculation and conjecture, the latter of which is all Zenyatta fans have in terms of her historical significance. And he's not saying anything about trips. So once again, you're grasping at straws.

You're delusional. Everybody appreciated her performance, so nobody's attacking those who do. What people are 'attacking' are the excuses about the trip/home track advantage and the idea that somehow that race stamped her as the greatest female racehorse of all time.

[slotdirt]

Among fillies/mares who've won Breeders Cup races at Churchill the last five years, I'd still take Ouija Board over Zenyatta for her overall body of work. Just saying...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

The horse lost by a HEAD, Joey. While she lost, she still ran SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER than any of her detractors thought she would. Rather than just stating this, which Beyer did in his latest article, some here feel the need to still come after her or anyone who appreciates her performance. This would be, among others, a group that held QR in high regard (even just before the Classic). Or thought that RA would beat Z or, even, that Blind Luck or even, laughably, LAL, were better than Z. Now, this isn't a bunch of know nothings; this is some of the better handicappers around. This typically constitutes STFU in most intelligent circles.

As for Cannon: he's already demonstrated he's clueless when it comes to evaluating races. In other words, his tripping skills are woeful. Now, he might be a better trainer than tripper but the quality of his stock, presently, doesn't support this. (I realize that he's waiting for the call by Darley or Repole.)

I do applaud his recent efforts on this thread however. Clearly, he has an axe to grind. And Z obviously shook his ass up by just missing. In this he had quite a bit of company.

You are simply a faceless troll on the internet. I have a grasp of the sport that you just aren't intellegent enough to understand. Keep making up phony idiocy like "footwork" and other garbage like your flawed charts that no one else cares about. Only about 10% of the people who are involved or follow this sport really have any clue as to what really is happening. You shouldn't be ashamed that you fall into the other 90%. There are some people who are far smarter than you that don't get it either.

You probably should try to get some help before your self-loathing becomes dangerous to others.

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You are simply a faceless troll on the internet. I have a grasp of the sport that you just aren't intellegent enough to understand. Keep making up phony idiocy like "footwork" and other garbage like your flawed charts that no one else cares about. Only about 10% of the people who are involved or follow this sport really have any clue as to what really is happening. You shouldn't be ashamed that you fall into the other 90%. There are some people who are far smarter than you that don't get it either.

You probably should try to get some help before your self-loathing becomes dangerous to others.

so you are obviously right because ............. well because you have thought it and therefore you are right. It is sad when someone has to pontificate about how much more of a grasp they have of something than 90% of the others. That kind of self-elevation only means the drop is that much harder. So if we don't agree with you, we are faceless internet trolls who don't get it? Man, you must have alot of yes-men around you to keep that ego going. This blog is getting far to full of just this kind of "let me elevate myself by making someone else look foolish".

[slotdirt]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

so you are obviously right because ............. well because you have thought it and therefore you are right. It is sad when someone has to pontificate about how much more of a grasp they have of something than 90% of the others. That kind of self-elevation only means the drop is that much harder. So if we don't agree with you, we are faceless internet trolls who don't get it? Man, you must have alot of yes-men around you to keep that ego going. This blog is getting far to full of just this kind of "let me elevate myself by making someone else look foolish".

Don't you know who Cannon SHell is? Of course he has a lot of yes man. Good God.

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Don't you know who Cannon SHell is? Of course he has a lot of yes man. Good God.

I do know exactly who he is.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

so you are obviously right because ............. well because you have thought it and therefore you are right. It is sad when someone has to pontificate about how much more of a grasp they have of something than 90% of the others. That kind of self-elevation only means the drop is that much harder. So if we don't agree with you, we are faceless internet trolls who don't get it? Man, you must have alot of yes-men around you to keep that ego going. This blog is getting far to full of just this kind of "let me elevate myself by making someone else look foolish".

If you are wrong, you are wrong. I don't make idiots like you and TFM write stupid things. But I will point it out when you do. If that is too much for you to deal with then you can check in at some of the other public forums where the ratio is a lot closer to 99%/1%.

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

If you are wrong, you are wrong. I don't make idiots like you and TFM write stupid things. But I will point it out when you do. If that is too much for you to deal with then you can check in at some of the other public forums where the ratio is a lot closer to 99%/1%.

My goodness. It is worse than I thought. We aren't talking about facts here! Opinions are being expressed. Everyone on this site is prone to mistakes in judgement. Andy S even acknowledges wearing a dunce hat periodically. And I am not the one shooting out names like Idiots/trolls/etc. to those who stand in disagreement with me.

I have respect for your decisions regarding bloodstock and training and know some of the owners you have given advise to. That doesn't make you right! Perhaps you should consider the 99%/1% forum as then you would have more folks giving you unquestioned support without anyone trying to point out or challenge you on your demeanor.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

My goodness. It is worse than I thought. We aren't talking about facts here! Opinions are being expressed. Everyone on this site is prone to mistakes in judgement. Andy S even acknowledges wearing a dunce hat periodically. And I am not the one shooting out names like Idiots/trolls/etc. to those who stand in disagreement with me.

I have respect for your decisions regarding bloodstock and training and know some of the owners you have given advise to. That doesn't make you right! Perhaps you should consider the 99%/1% forum as then you would have more folks giving you unquestioned support without anyone trying to point out or challenge you on your demeanor.

Perhaps I am mistaken but where did I address you in this thread?

Oh thats right I didn't, you took offense to something I said to another poster who regularly makes unsolicited, snide comments directed at me and decided to jump in.

You decided to include your self in the 90%. I don't know who you are nor did I say a word to you before you decided to ride in to the defense of the unwashed masses and the fat dork.

[magic_idol]

Bump....................................I just wanted to get this up to 400 replies as i think it really deserves it as top dog in replies 391 dosn't quite sound right