Why retire her?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

Yes, applauded for it and an incredible feat. Zenyatta didn't put synthetics in Cal nor did her connections. My only point is that it still is an incredible feat and she should be certainly applauded for it more than I read on here. That's it.

Oh give me a break. She's applauded plenty. Trying to talk some reason into people who want to make her more than she is isn't the same as ignoring her achievements.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Oh give me a break. She's applauded plenty. Trying to talk some reason into people who want to make her more than she is isn't the same as ignoring her achievements.

People here take it too far in both directions. I honestly don't read everything in the Paddock section, but have a ton of posters readily proclaimed her the greatest of all time ever??

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

People here take it too far in both directions. I honestly don't read everything in the Paddock section, but have a ton of posters readily proclaimed her the greatest of all time ever??

Vic called her the greatest female ever yesterday. Without hesitation. What do you think he would've called her if she won? The hyperbole has been nonstop all year.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Vic called her the greatest female ever yesterday. Without hesitation. What do you think he would've called her if she won? The hyperbole has been nonstop all year.

The GHOAT.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Vic called her the greatest female ever yesterday. Without hesitation. What do you think he would've called her if she won? The hyperbole has been nonstop all year.

No one can know any of that. My best guess is you could certainly safely put her top 10 to 15 female without hesitation or is that getting too far out there?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

No one can know any of that. My best guess is you could certainly safely put her top 10 to 15 female without hesitation or is that getting too far out there?

But that's not what he said, is it? Calling her top 10 or 15 is entirely different than calling her the best.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

No one can know any of that. My best guess is you could certainly safely put her top 10 to 15 female without hesitation or is that getting too far out there?

I can think of one crop of three year old fillies that had about five or six that were better than Zenyatta.

[The Bid]

If thats what you think, you better stick to being stupid which seems to come pretty easy for you

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by The Bid

If thats what you think, you better stick to being stupid which seems to come pretty easy for you

This coming from the person who thinks Zenyatta almost fell and lost seven lengths.

Do you really believe that Zenyatta would have been competitive with Inside Information, Lakeway, Sardula, or even Heavenly Prize?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

No one can know any of that. My best guess is you could certainly safely put her top 10 to 15 female without hesitation or is that getting too far out there?

I agree. top 15 female. Not in the top 100 of both genders though.

She ran a great race Saturday.. I gained more respect for that race than 18 of her 19 previous.

[Rupert Pupkin]

I don't think it's a "slam-dunk" that she will be retired. Once they have more time to think about it, I think there is a decent chance that they will change their minds. If I had to make a line on it, I'd say there is a 30% chance they change their minds and decide to run her next year.

By the way, she's not going to a farm in Kentucky right now. She's heading back to California to Hollywood Park. That will make it even easier for them to change their minds.

If Zenyatta would have won the Classic, I don't think there is any chance that they would have run her again. But since she lost (and the connections feel she was best and should have won), they may want to give it another try next year.

[lemoncrush]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't think it's a "slam-dunk" that she will be retired. Once they have more time to think about it, I think there is a decent chance that they will change their minds. If I had to make a line on it, I'd say there is a 30% chance they change their minds and decide to run her next year.

By the way, she's not going to a farm in Kentucky right now. She's heading back to California to Hollywood Park. That will make it even easier for them to change their minds.

If Zenyatta would have won the Classic, I don't think there is any chance that they would have run her again. But since she lost (and the connections feel she was best and should have won), they may want to give it another try next year.

I don't see an upside to bring her back at 7, especially if it's just to appease the California fans, and try to win the vanity or lady's secret for the 16th time. If they were interested in running in the SA handicap, Hollywood gold cup, or an open company G1 outside of California I would be interested. Hell, try her on the turf. Anything but the same campaign as 2010.