Blame = Hoy!!

Originally Posted by Honu

Uhm I have seen horses win the Classic beating horses that have been the best all year and they still didnt get HOY. It is totally an East Coast bias from the press always have and always will be. RA didnt win the Classic last year and she got horse of the year and was life or death to even compete on a grade1 level this year
Blame will get it and I love Claiborne Farms as they have been a staple in the industry for 100 years. That said, I still think it sucks azz that Z will be denied the award again.

One way to say it would be all that SHE did for racing. Another way would be to point out what YOU FANS did for her and all of us in racing. The way YOU embraced her made the world stop and take note. What a horse does to promote the sport is vitally important but IS NOT criteria in the HOY voting equasion. She will be talked about for generations. Blame will only be known for beating her. But the fact of the matter based on what he achieved this year and the fact that he crossed this line in front of her in their only meeting Blame will win HOY. I wish she'd won. More so for us fans than anything else. She didn't. But on a positive note. No horse was hurt. The race was fairly run. Zenny's reputation was actually enhanced by her performance. I felt more proud of her in defeat than any of her wins. The greatest female horse of all time ran the BEST RACE of her career and was defeated fair and square. I choose to rejoice in what happened today. Great theatre. Great horses. Great day. Oh BTW I'll never forgive that damm BLAME

[Seattleallstar]

If you ain't first, you're last

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

One way to say it would be all that SHE did for racing. Another way would be to point out what YOU FANS did for her and all of us in racing. The way YOU embraced her made the world stop and take note. What a horse does to promote the sport is vitally important but IS NOT criteria in the HOY voting equasion. She will be talked about for generations. Blame will only be known for beating her. But the fact of the matter based on what he achieved this year and the fact that he crossed this line in front of her in their only meeting Blame will win HOY. I wish she'd won. More so for us fans than anything else. She didn't. But on a positive note. No horse was hurt. The race was fairly run. Zenny's reputation was actually enhanced by her performance. I felt more proud of her in defeat than any of her wins. The greatest female horse of all time ran the BEST RACE of her career and was defeated fair and square. I choose to rejoice in what happened today. Great theatre. Great horses. Great day. Oh BTW I'll never forgive that damm BLAME

Someone earlier asked what is the definition of a Zenyattard. I give you the above.

However, since the person who asked the question is also one, well, it's a mute point (since it will fall on deaf ears, so to speak).

[Smooth Operator]

Yo Indian boy … are you still clinging to your (bizarre) belief that Z won't make the BCC? LMAO

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

Yo Indian boy … are you still clinging to your (bizarre) belief that Z won't make the BCC? LMAO

Listen pinhead.

I was saying she was around 50/50 in the early to mid summer time range.

Since then, my posts about her not running in the BCC were sarcastic attempts to say that her connections are complete pussies, and that I'm waiting for their usual backtrack, which they've done many many times in the last eighteen months or so.

I realize that might seem too subtle a concept for you to grasp, so go ahead and hold onto whatever you can to make yourself feel that you are right and I am wrong.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Listen pinhead.

I was saying she was around 50/50 in the early to mid summer time range.

Since then, my posts about her not running in the BCC were sarcastic attempts to say that her connections are complete pussies, and that I'm waiting for their usual backtrack, which they've done many many times in the last eighteen months or so.

I realize that might seem too subtle a concept for you to grasp, so go ahead and hold onto whatever you can to make yourself feel that you are right and I am wrong.

Cut Smooth Operator some slack. His world was shattered yesterday.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Cut Smooth Operator some slack. His world was shattered yesterday.

No it wasn't.

Don't you remember, he hedged his retarded opinion of the last year or so when he realized that not every since facet of this race was not going to be 100% in her favor. That she might actually face some horses that aren't historically the worst group of grade 1 mares ever.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

No it wasn't.

Don't you remember, he hedged his retarded opinion of the last year or so when he realized that not every since facet of this race was not going to be 100% in her favor. That she might actually face some horses that aren't historically the worst group of grade 1 mares ever.

It was shattered in the manner in which it happened. It can't get any crueler for a Zaniac to watch their prized mare lose a race like that because they had hope until the last stride. It would have been better for their mental health if she had finished last.

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Listen pinhead.

I was saying she was around 50/50 in the early to mid summer time range.

Since then, my posts about her not running in the BCC were sarcastic attempts to say that her connections are complete pussies, and that I'm waiting for their usual backtrack, which they've done many many times in the last eighteen months or so.

I realize that might seem too subtle a concept for you to grasp, so go ahead and hold onto whatever you can to make yourself feel that you are right and I am wrong.

LMAO … yeah, whatever you say, Indian boy

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Smooth Operator

LMAO … yeah, whatever you say, Indian boy

Ateam is wrong. You aren't trying to be stupid. You really are stupid.

[Indian Charlie]

Is Indian boy supposed to be some sort of insult?

Not only is the Prostate Operator stupid, he also apparently believes that being Indian is some sort of negative thing.

Which brings me back to him being stupid.

What's more idiotic about ol Smoothie? His racing takes on DT, or the fact that he's a fan of the singer of a song with the line that goes "Coast to coast, LA to Chicago, Western male"

I mean really, WTF, Coast to coast, LA to Chicago???????

No need to ask.
He's a prostate operator,
smooth operatard,
smooth operatard,
smooth operatard.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Honu

RA didnt win the Classic last year and she got horse of the year and was life or death to even compete on a grade1 level this year
Blame will get it and I love Claiborne Farms as they have been a staple in the industry for 100 years. That said, I still think it sucks azz that Z will be denied the award again.

You're right, Rachel shouldn't have won the 2009 HOY because of how mediocre she was going to be in 2010. Makes perfect sense. Get mad at Zenyatta's connections, not at Blame. Had they treated her like the champion they said she was, she likely would've been one this year.

Originally Posted by dellinger63

And for those pushing for Blame? Didn't he barely hang on to a mare who never ran out of Cali and on poly (sans) Arkansas? Or is she now good enough to give reason to naming Blame HOY? Can't have it both ways and the only strong supporters of Blame should also be strong supporters of Zenyatta. To the haters he barely beat a mediocre horse and the rest of the field had to be horrible to finish that far behind her.

Once again, you're confusing most talented horse with HOY. Blame's accomplishments this year dwarf Zenyatta's even if his Classic winning margin doesn't. It's not even debatable.

Originally Posted by v j stauffer

One way to say it would be all that SHE did for racing. Another way would be to point out what YOU FANS did for her and all of us in racing. The way YOU embraced her made the world stop and take note. What a horse does to promote the sport is vitally important but IS NOT criteria in the HOY voting equasion. She will be talked about for generations. Blame will only be known for beating her. But the fact of the matter based on what he achieved this year and the fact that he crossed this line in front of her in their only meeting Blame will win HOY. I wish she'd won. More so for us fans than anything else. She didn't. But on a positive note. No horse was hurt. The race was fairly run. Zenny's reputation was actually enhanced by her performance. I felt more proud of her in defeat than any of her wins. The greatest female horse of all time ran the BEST RACE of her career and was defeated fair and square. I choose to rejoice in what happened today. Great theatre. Great horses. Great day. Oh BTW I'll never forgive that damm BLAME

Serious question: What makes her the greatest female horse of all time? I'm not being a 'hater', I honestly don't understand how this is the conclusion drawn from her career. Is she in the conversation? Sure. But there have been a ton of great females and I find it hard to believe that they couldn't have been as successful as her with her campaigns.

I also disagree with the notion that her reputation was enhanced in the loss. Her reputation had become that of one of the greatest horses of all time. It was a ridiculous reputation and unfair to her. How can that kind of reputation be enhanced by her losing to one of the slowest Classic winners in the history of the race?