11/6 (CD): Breeders' Cup Saturday (Post Draw Fields; ML's)

[philcski]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

What am I missing on him? I think Tizway ROLLS.

He's 7-5-1-1 around 1 turn (undefeated since breaking his maiden), loves CD, can handle multiple pace scenarios, and is one of the fastest in the field. What's not to love?

I'm concerned Tizway will get caught up chasing a crazy pace. Mad Flatter, Morning Line, Thisskyhasnolimit, Tropic Storm, and Vineyard Haven all have tons of speed. That leaves him two options- press with them and potentially get blown up or try to settle farther back which he's already proven to not prefer.

I will key Here Comes Ben with Awesome Gem (assuming he's a big price), Crown of Thorns, Dakota Phone (again need a big price), Gayego, and Hurricane Ike.

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I assume he had issues after the Derby Trial. I can't imagine the plan was to take 4 months off. I guess he really hasn't done anything since, but he wasn't in great spots IMO. He had no shot in the King's Bishop, against the horse that probably would have been chalk in the sprint had he not gotten injured. And I don't think he wants any part of two turns.

I think he has a shot to fall into a nice trip behind the pace. Tizway is a nice horse, but I'm not crazy about him at a short price and he hasn't exactly run well outside of NY.

I also think he can get a piece at a nice price- of the 3yo's he's clearly the best choice.

[Bogey]

Originally Posted by philcski

He's 7-5-1-1 around 1 turn (undefeated since breaking his maiden), loves CD, can handle multiple pace scenarios, and is one of the fastest in the field. What's not to love?

I'm concerned Tizway will get caught up chasing a crazy pace. Mad Flatter, Morning Line, Thisskyhasnolimit, Tropic Storm, and Vineyard Haven all have tons of speed. That leaves him two options- press with them and potentially get blown up or try to settle farther back which he's already proven to not prefer.

I will key Here Comes Ben with Awesome Gem (assuming he's a big price), Crown of Thorns, Dakota Phone (again need a big price), Gayego, and Hurricane Ike.



I also think he can get a piece at a nice price- of the 3yo's he's clearly the best choice.

Confirmed for the Marathon, I thought he was interesting in the Dirt Mile as well.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Bogey

Confirmed for the Marathon, I thought he was interesting in the Dirt Mile as well.

He could just be a lot better than anything in the Marathon.
Looks like he should be a square price.

[hockey2315]

One of the Euros is bred really well for the Marathon on dirt. He's not very good, but nobody else is either.

[tjfla]

Bloodhorse

Under consideration for a pair of World Championship races, Runnymede Farm team has decided to run homebred Rogue Romance in the the $2 million Grey Goose Breeders’ Cup Juvenile (gr. I) Nov. 6 at Churchill Downs.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

One of the Euros is bred really well for the Marathon on dirt. He's not very good, but nobody else is either.

I assume you are talking about Precision Break. He'll be taking my $$ here, though it won't be much in that garbage race.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by cakes44

I assume you are talking about Precision Break. He'll be taking my $$ here, though it won't be much in that garbage race.

Thats my thought on the race... It sucks. Ill narrow it down to 1-2 horses and play some smallish pick 3's.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Thats my thought on the race... It sucks. Ill narrow it down to 1-2 horses and play some smallish pick 3's.

man you love you some pick 3's.

[Bogey]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

He could just be a lot better than anything in the Marathon.
Looks like he should be a square price.

No doubt

[Fulla Sheets]

Isn't Utley a half to Rainbow View and Just as Well?

[philcski]

From DerbyMedia:
Chamberain Bridge (Turf Sprint) popped an abscess this a.m. & will probably skip his next scheduled breeze. Will return to track tomorrow.

Obviously a big deal as he probably will be a top 3 choice.

[NoLuvForPletch]

Originally Posted by philcski

From DerbyMedia:
Chamberain Bridge (Turf Sprint) popped an abscess this a.m. & will probably skip his next scheduled breeze. Will return to track tomorrow.

Obviously a big deal as he probably will be a top 3 choice.

Loved him in this spot as he should be 4-4 on the CD lawn. Obviously the abscess and missed breeze dampen the enthusiasm. Any update on his status would be appreciated. Thanks!

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by Fulla Sheets

Isn't Utley a half to Rainbow View and Just as Well?

ya. . .

[philcski]

I know this is probably hyperbole because we all know what she is capable of, but Zenyatta looked just awesome in her work a few minutes ago.

[zippyneedsawin]

I can't seem to get to the last page of this thread.. so I figured maybe posting something would work.... let's see....

[Alan07]

Juvenile Male Dirt (3:55)
Post Horse Jockey Trainer Odds
1. Biondetti Ahmed Ajtebi Mahmoud Al Zarooni 12-1
2. Boys At Tosconova Ramon A. Dominguez Richard E. Dutrow, Jr. 5-2
3. J. B.'s Thunder Shaun Bridgmohan Albert M. Stall, Jr. 12-1
4. J P's Gusto Patrick A. Valenzuela David E. Hofmans 10-1
5. Riveting Reason Victor Espinoza Myung Kwon Cho 30-1
6. Stay Thirsty Javier Castellano Todd A. Pletcher 8-1
7. Uncle Mo John R. Velazquez Todd A. Pletcher 7-5
8. Murjan Rafael Bejarano Darrin Miller 30-1
9. Rogue Romance Julien Leparoux Kenneth G. McPeek 30-1
10. Jaycito Mike Smith Mike R. Mitchell 8-1

[robfla]

Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

I can't seem to get to the last page of this thread.. so I figured maybe posting something would work.... let's see....

i had the same problem...fixed now

[Kasept]

DIRT MILE (5:20p)

1. Dakota Phone (J. Hollendorfer/P. Valenzuela) 30-1
2. Tizway (J. Bond/R. Maragh) 6-1
3. Aikenite (T. Pletcher/G. Gomez) 50-1
4. Mad Flatter (J. Thornbury/J. Court) 12-1
5. Here Comes Ben (C. Lopresti/A. Solis) 6-1
6. Gayego (S. bin Suroor/A. Garcia) 6-1
7. Thiskyhasnolimit (S. Asmussen/S. Bridgmohan) 10-1
8. Crown of Thorns (R. Mandella/R. Bejarano) 4-1
9. Hurricane Ike (J. Sadler/C. Borel) 20-1
10. Morning Line (N. Zito/J. Castellano) 7-2*
11. Mine That Bird (W. Lukas/M. Smith) 20-1
12. Vineyard Haven (S. bin Suroor/A. Garcia) 10-1
13. Cool Coal Man (N. Zito/J. Leparoux) 20-1

[RockHardTen1985]

Quality Road is not who I thought he was.