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Old 10-27-2010, 08:04 PM
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Old 10-27-2010, 11:50 PM
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:27 AM
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The Classic is really shaping up to be a great betting race.

The hype about Zenyetta is only growing- which didnt think possible and this is going to guarantee great prices on just about anyone else. I know there are some players who go by the "picking winners" mentality and that the only thing that matters is looking backwards afterwards and concluding only the winner was a good bet. But for rest of us this is shaping up as a phenomenal value proposition. Not quite once in a lifetime but just a great opportunity.
There is a perceived hype on message boards and outlandish articles written by some but I have a hunch there is a silent majority just waiting to cash in on the value of the "other three" and many of those people are going to be disappointed. There will be value outside of the top four and I'm not convinced she will be favored come post time.
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:29 AM
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Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:31 AM
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Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?
I'm not singling him, but don't think that's crazy at all.
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:36 AM
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Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?
I think he is the most likely winner.

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Old 10-28-2010, 09:42 AM
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Any horse that can get to the winners circle 3 times in a row with Solis on board is what I consider special in this day and age. If I have to crash and burn then this is the race where I'll do so.
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:41 AM
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Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?
No, but I can tell you other reasons you are crazy, if you'd like.

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Old 10-28-2010, 09:43 AM
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No, but I can tell you other reasons you are crazy, if you'd like.

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Old 10-28-2010, 11:13 AM
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Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?
I dont like him much, not sure Ill even cover him.
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Old 10-28-2010, 11:20 AM
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I dont like him much, not sure Ill even cover him.
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Old 10-28-2010, 11:26 AM
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Old 10-28-2010, 12:00 PM
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Will someone tell me I'm crazy for wanting to single Here Comes Ben in the Dirt Mile?
I am in love with this guy in this race. You're crazy, but not for singling him
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:22 PM
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I am in love with this guy in this race. You're crazy, but not for singling him
What am I missing on him? I think Tizway ROLLS.
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Old 10-28-2010, 08:34 PM
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I think Hurricane Ike is a live longshot in the Dirt Mile. Was super at Churchill in the Trial. No shot in the King's Bishop off the layoff and that track and too far last time. Like the cutback and I've heard he's been working well at Churchill.
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Old 10-29-2010, 08:48 AM
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What am I missing on him? I think Tizway ROLLS.
He's 7-5-1-1 around 1 turn (undefeated since breaking his maiden), loves CD, can handle multiple pace scenarios, and is one of the fastest in the field. What's not to love?

I'm concerned Tizway will get caught up chasing a crazy pace. Mad Flatter, Morning Line, Thisskyhasnolimit, Tropic Storm, and Vineyard Haven all have tons of speed. That leaves him two options- press with them and potentially get blown up or try to settle farther back which he's already proven to not prefer.

I will key Here Comes Ben with Awesome Gem (assuming he's a big price), Crown of Thorns, Dakota Phone (again need a big price), Gayego, and Hurricane Ike.

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I assume he had issues after the Derby Trial. I can't imagine the plan was to take 4 months off. I guess he really hasn't done anything since, but he wasn't in great spots IMO. He had no shot in the King's Bishop, against the horse that probably would have been chalk in the sprint had he not gotten injured. And I don't think he wants any part of two turns.

I think he has a shot to fall into a nice trip behind the pace. Tizway is a nice horse, but I'm not crazy about him at a short price and he hasn't exactly run well outside of NY.
I also think he can get a piece at a nice price- of the 3yo's he's clearly the best choice.
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Old 10-28-2010, 10:00 AM
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She'll obviously be under 3-1.
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Old 10-28-2010, 10:01 AM
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She will be under 2-1.

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Old 10-28-2010, 10:11 AM
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What I want to know is if she will be favored in p3 p4 and p6 pools?
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Old 10-28-2010, 10:46 AM
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What I want to know is if she will be favored in p3 p4 and p6 pools?

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