10/23 (BEL): New York Bred Showcase Day

[JerseyJ]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Kelly's running Upper East Sider on the dirt? Maybe that's why he's a 3% trainer.

Not exactly fair to me to necessarily criticize Kelly here. Yes she was very impressive on the grass, but he tried to get her into the Miss Grillo I think it was but she was an AE, and the condition books at this time of year aren't exactly brimming with 2YO turf allowances and stakes. While this race actually looks like an ok group, her debut was over a wet racetrack against a pretty good field of 2YOs at Saratoga, as well as an open field. She has to be able to run better than that I would think, as well as the fact that she can rate in a race that looks to have a lot of speed. Yeah, she's going to be a good turf horse IMO and a much better grass horse than dirt horse, but he tried to get her in, got stuck on the AE's and looks to be taking a shot for
100K in an NY-bred resticted race. Can't really blame him.

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by JerseyJ

Not exactly fair to me to necessarily criticize Kelly here. Yes she was very impressive on the grass, but he tried to get her into the Miss Grillo I think it was but she was an AE, and the condition books at this time of year aren't exactly brimming with 2YO turf allowances and stakes. While this race actually looks like an ok group, her debut was over a wet racetrack against a pretty good field of 2YOs at Saratoga, as well as an open field. She has to be able to run better than that I would think, as well as the fact that she can rate in a race that looks to have a lot of speed. Yeah, she's going to be a good turf horse IMO and a much better grass horse than dirt horse, but he tried to get her in, got stuck on the AE's and looks to be taking a shot for
100K in an NY-bred resticted race. Can't really blame him.

I guess that's a fair point, but this is a wasted spot. This horse is very good on turf. . . he could've shipped out of town.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by JerseyJ

Not exactly fair to me to necessarily criticize Kelly here. Yes she was very impressive on the grass, but he tried to get her into the Miss Grillo I think it was but she was an AE, and the condition books at this time of year aren't exactly brimming with 2YO turf allowances and stakes. While this race actually looks like an ok group, her debut was over a wet racetrack against a pretty good field of 2YOs at Saratoga, as well as an open field. She has to be able to run better than that I would think, as well as the fact that she can rate in a race that looks to have a lot of speed. Yeah, she's going to be a good turf horse IMO and a much better grass horse than dirt horse, but he tried to get her in, got stuck on the AE's and looks to be taking a shot for
100K in an NY-bred resticted race. Can't really blame him.

There was a stake at Keeneland last week and an allowance at Keeneland this week she was eligible for. You're right, there aren't a lot a spots, but either of those had to be better than this.

[Dahoss]

I'm betting Great Priveledge in the 5th. Mclaughlin is 7 for 20, with an ROI of $3.70 with horses making the second lifetime start, while trying grass for the first time. He gets off the rail, had a little bit of trouble last time and appeared to resist the dirt in the face. I think he runs much better.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I'm betting Great Priveledge in the 5th. Mclaughlin is 7 for 20, with an ROI of $3.70 with horses making the second lifetime start, while trying grass for the first time. He gets off the rail, had a little bit of trouble last time and appeared to resist the dirt in the face. I think he runs much better.

He's a half to Silenced who won his turf debut for Lukas here last year. I absolutely love this horse tomorrow.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

He's a half to Silenced who won his turf debut for Lukas here last year. I absolutely love this horse tomorrow.

I picked that horse figuring he would probably be the best price of the contenders...but do you remember the circumstances of Silenced winning his turf debut last year?

[my miss storm cat]

Naughty New Yorker is injured and out (retired).

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I picked that horse figuring he would probably be the best price of the contenders...but do you remember the circumstances of Silenced winning his turf debut last year?

In Te Domine's loss was Silenced's gain.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Ton of speed - Driven, the Rudy Rod juice job, and General Maximus are all wire to wire threats and I believe the contest will be decided on the front end. Give the nod to GM, but will use DoS and have to include the juice.

That's the bitch about this guy - you gotta spread to include even though the horse has no business in the race on paper until the magic man gets his hands on him.

I wonder if Jacobson knew what he was losing 6 back?



Unreal. 20 point move up