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Old 10-22-2010, 11:37 PM
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He's a half to Silenced who won his turf debut for Lukas here last year. I absolutely love this horse tomorrow.
I picked that horse figuring he would probably be the best price of the contenders...but do you remember the circumstances of Silenced winning his turf debut last year?
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Old 10-22-2010, 11:49 PM
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Naughty New Yorker is injured and out (retired).
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Old 10-22-2010, 11:54 PM
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I picked that horse figuring he would probably be the best price of the contenders...but do you remember the circumstances of Silenced winning his turf debut last year?
In Te Domine's loss was Silenced's gain.
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Old 10-23-2010, 10:38 AM
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Ton of speed - Driven, the Rudy Rod juice job, and General Maximus are all wire to wire threats and I believe the contest will be decided on the front end. Give the nod to GM, but will use DoS and have to include the juice.

That's the bitch about this guy - you gotta spread to include even though the horse has no business in the race on paper until the magic man gets his hands on him.

I wonder if Jacobson knew what he was losing 6 back?



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Old 10-23-2010, 04:24 PM
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Friend or Foe should've been in something graded.
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Old 10-23-2010, 04:36 PM
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Friend or Foe should've been in something graded.
Really? Not to get all Betsy on people, but they rushed him into the Jim Dandy and Travers off a statebred allowance win and he ran admirably. Should they have put him in the Classic? This was the closest thing he's gotten to class relief since his N1X, he proved his mettle and there's plenty of time to get him some graded stakes wins. This was only his sixth start.
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Old 10-23-2010, 04:39 PM
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Really? Not to get all Betsy on people, but they rushed him into the Jim Dandy and Travers off a statebred allowance win and he ran admirably. Should they have put him in the Classic? This was the closest thing he's gotten to class relief since his N1X, he proved his mettle and there's plenty of time to get him some graded stakes wins. This was only his sixth start.
They have plenty of options now but given the Bromans are so involved in NY breeding this spot made sense. You're not going to get a much easier spot for 200k. They can think about the Clark or Cigar Mile and have a relatively fresh horse for Gulfstream and what should be a DISASTROUS handicap division next year if Lookin at Lucky is retired.
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Old 10-23-2010, 04:39 PM
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They scratched him out of the Pennsylvania Derby and said they were pointing to the Kelso, but then scratched him out of that. Obviously, I understand from an owner's perspective why you'd want to take the easy way out and run in this spot, but from my bankroll's perspective, it's annoying.
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Old 10-23-2010, 04:45 PM
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They scratched him out of the Pennsylvania Derby and said they were pointing to the Kelso, but then scratched him out of that. Obviously, I understand from an owner's perspective why you'd want to take the easy way out and run in this spot, but from my bankroll's perspective, it's annoying.
I'd be on your side if they hadn't already taken some (relatively) big leaps with the horse this year.
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Old 10-23-2010, 04:47 PM
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They scratched him out of the Pennsylvania Derby and said they were pointing to the Kelso, but then scratched him out of that. Obviously, I understand from an owner's perspective why you'd want to take the easy way out and run in this spot, but from my bankroll's perspective, it's annoying.
He had a hoof infection that kept affecting their preparation, plans and placement. Easy way out wasn't the issue. Kimmel thinks very highly of him and would loved to have been able to run in the bigger open spots. Especially after the frustrating 'lost all chance' first turn fiasco in the Travers.
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