Nancy Pelosi, Communist?

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

Yes, but the tax rate would have to be more around 20-26%, to equal what is taken in now with taxes.

That's where the spending cuts come in. But at least we're agreed that there would be no need for income "brackets".

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

That's where the spending cuts come in. But at least we're agreed that there would be no need for income "brackets".

I wish the flat tax was put into effect 30 years ago, when we could have afforded it and it was far more doable.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Riot

I wish the flat tax was put into effect 30 years ago

I gotta stop agreeing with you like this... LOL.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

That's where the spending cuts come in. But at least we're agreed that there would be no need for income "brackets".

I have seen the entire GOP talk about "spending cuts", but I have never seen a list of specific items to be cut, adding up to a specific amount. They refuse to answer that one.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Riot

I have seen the entire GOP talk about "spending cuts", but I have never seen a list of specific items to be cut, adding up to a specific amount. They refuse to answer that one.

cut defense , medicare by 20% across the board

get rid of the dept of labor , education , agriculture

raise the retirement age on ssi to 70

requre all new gov't employees at all levels to contribute to their pension and to their healtcare

those are a start riot , what do you think ?

[Nascar1966]

Calling Pelosi a communist is being too nice to her.

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

Calling Pelosi a communist is being too nice to her.

Not really fair to Commies either!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by gales0678

cut defense , medicare by 20% across the board

get rid of the dept of labor , education , agriculture

raise the retirement age on ssi to 70

requre all new gov't employees at all levels to contribute to their pension and to their healtcare

those are a start riot , what do you think ?

I think the above is more generalized political babble.

Show me what particular 20% part of Medicare you're going to eliminate (what actual services you are taking away, and from whom) Name the services and the amount.

Same with defense.

You get rid of the Dept of Labor, Education and Agriculture (and give me a plan for doing it) what do you do with the disaster that immediately ensues from the programs that are - poof - gone?

I like the last one. How much? Give some dollar amounts.

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Riot

I think the above is more generalized political babble.

Show me what particular 20% part of Medicare you're going to eliminate (what actual services you are taking away, and from whom) Name the services and the amount.

Same with defense.

You get rid of the Dept of Labor, Education and Agriculture (and give me a plan for doing it) what do you do with the disaster that immediately ensues from the programs that are - poof - gone?

I like the last one. How much? Give some dollar amounts.

medicare / defense , across the board cuts in all areas by 20% it's that simple

everyone on meidcare shares the pain - providers and recipients

defense - cut back on some new weapons , let go some overhanging fruit in the military - it can be done i
m sure

larbor and education are not needed they can be run on the state level with no federal dollars , i wouldn't totally phaze out agriculture but i am sure it could be trimmed 25 % or more


as for new employees - they all would be required to fund their pensions with a minimum of 8% of their salary with an additional funding to pay for their healtcare costs - ie no free ride , every check you get hit with a payment for your medical and dental

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by gales0678

medicare / defense , across the board cuts in all areas by 20% it's that simple

everyone on meidcare shares the pain - providers and recipients

defense - cut back on some new weapons , let go some overhanging fruit in the military - it can be done i
m sure

larbor and education are not needed they can be run on the state level with no federal dollars , i wouldn't totally phaze out agriculture but i am sure it could be trimmed 25 % or more


as for new employees - ty all would be required to fund their pensions with a minimum of 8% of their salary with an additional funding to pay for their healtcare costs - ie no free ride , every check you get hit with a payment for your medical and dental

I agree with you about no free rides for people who want health insurance. Im putting my son through college right now. Why should my money that I earn go to support someone else. Is anyone going to help me pay to put my son through college?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I agree with you about no free rides for people who want health insurance. Im putting my son through college right now. Why should my money that I earn go to support someone else. Is anyone going to help me pay to put my son through college?

i would help but serling's been cold lately and i have no extra cash

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Nascar1966

I agree with you about no free rides for people who want health insurance. Im putting my son through college right now. Why should my money that I earn go to support someone else. Is anyone going to help me pay to put my son through college?

I assume you'll only consider a private college, right?

[Riot]

medicare / defense , across the board cuts in all areas by 20% it's that simple

No, it's not that simple.

Which particular services are you going to put into that 20% and take way to save money? They have to be named. Echocardiograms? Pap smears? Serum chemistries for monitoring of liver function when the patient is on a NSAID?

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Riot

No, it's not that simple.

Which particular services are you going to put into that 20% and take way to save money? They have to be named. Echocardiograms? Pap smears? Serum chemistries for monitoring of liver function when the patient is on a NSAID?

i would simply fund medicare at 80% of what it currently gets ,how is that not simple eneough

there would be 20% less dollars spent on echocardiograms , pap smears , etc etc etc