Nice editorial

[DaTruth]

I wish some tracks would install artificial turf courses.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

I wish some tracks would install artificial turf courses.

oh help me nooooooo! keep that idea quiet. the best horses in the world now almost all run on grass. all weather is a joke...in cali, there is no weather. it gets hot and that crap melts. give me a break. i've seen the track here close , due to heat but it doesn't melt. the article was right and so good. Its just a coincidence that 3 m wanted a fake track...yeah, i'm buying that and the guy that lost all his money in the madoff deal.....had nothing (invested) to do with that pipe dream out there....oh.....ok.

[Riot]

I can imagine the screams of horror if America decided to go to all turf racing, like the majority of the rest of the world.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Riot

I can imagine the screams of horror if America decided to go to all turf racing, like the majority of the rest of the world.

Nice deflection.

[Riot]

Deflection of what? Grade 1's run on synthetic in other countries? Other countries run primarily turf - what does that question show except nothing? That's not comparable to synthetic use in the US. They don't need synthetic for daily racing, they have turf. Synthetic is a weather relief and training surface. Turf - in any country - doesn't have the injury rate our dirt racing has.

I'm looking forward to SA being put back to dirt, and watching the injury rate over the next few years. I think the idea that the bases (faults, holes, frost heaves, etc) on all these old tracks can be the problem is valid. If so, we won't see a "typical dirt injury rate" on the new SA track over the next few years.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Riot

Deflection of what? Grade 1's run on synthetic in other countries? Other countries run primarily turf - what does that question show except nothing? That's not comparable to synthetic use in the US. They don't need synthetic for daily racing, they have turf. Synthetic is a weather relief and training surface. Turf - in any country - doesn't have the injury rate our dirt racing has.

Deflection of the question. Try and follow along. We don't need synthetics either for daily racing. Which is the main point of it all. People have made a lot of money selling the crap here, but there is no need for it.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Deflection of the question. Try and follow along. We don't need synthetics either for daily racing because horse injury rates don't matter.

FTFY.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Riot

Deflection of what? Grade 1's run on synthetic in other countries? Other countries run primarily turf - what does that question show except nothing? .

That's not quite completely true. In Argentina and Chile, many of the major races are run on what they call 'sand' tracks; before 1978, it was 'all the major races' in Argentina.

And by the say, nobody runs for 'grade 1' races but British hurdlers and 'chasers. They run in 'Group 1' (Gruppo 1, etc.). The theory behind determining group and graded races is very different.

[Dahoss]

Finally the match up we've all been waiting for....Pedigree Ann vs. Riot.

Pass the popcorn.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

And by the say, nobody runs for 'grade 1' races but British hurdlers and 'chasers. They run in 'Group 1' (Gruppo 1, etc.). The theory behind determining group and graded races is very different.

this was a perfect response to a Riot post. Great job.