Shirreffs says Zenyatta deserves '10 Horse of the Year

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Good one, we are talking about a horse who has won 9 straight grade 1 races, who knew her races were restricted to only bad horses.

Her connections seemed to know.

The designation of grade 1 doesn't necessarily mean that it is a tough field or even a good field. How anyone could argue that the fields she has beaten the majority of her career aren't decidedly sub par is beyond me.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Her connections seemed to know.

The designation of grade 1 doesn't necessarily mean that it is a tough field or even a good field. How anyone could argue that the fields she has beaten the majority of her career aren't decidedly sub par is beyond me.

my point exactly. I am knocking your beloved sport and you don't even realize it.

9 straight grade 1 races and never faced a good horse....how does that happen?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

my point exactly. I am knocking your beloved sport and you don't even realize it.

9 straight grade 1 races and never faced a good horse....how does that happen?

What are you jabbering about?

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What are you jabbering about?

answer the question........how do you run in 9 straight grade 1 races and not face a good horse.....that was what you said, that just because they are grade 1 races does not mean they were good horses.

I am not saying I disagree, I am saying its a reason the BC draws a 0.2 share on ESPN.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

answer the question........how do you run in 9 straight grade 1 races and not face a good horse.....that was what you said, that just because they are grade 1 races does not mean they were good horses.

I am not saying I disagree, I am saying its a reason the BC draws a 0.2 share on ESPN.

Answer the question? Ok. See Zenyatta's schedule.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

I am not saying I disagree, I am saying its a reason the BC draws a 0.2 share on ESPN.

The Breeders' Cup is going to draw a 10.0 rating this year. Didn't you hear how much Zenyatta has done for the sport?

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Her connections seemed to know.

The designation of grade 1 doesn't necessarily mean that it is a tough field or even a good field. How anyone could argue that the fields she has beaten the majority of her career aren't decidedly sub par is beyond me.

Zenyatta has added about a million to her earnings thus far this year.

If the opportunity is there to pick up "an easy" million, and still be prepping for The Classic, I'd offer the connections might be wise.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

Zenyatta has added about a million to her earnings thus far this year.

If the opportunity is there to pick up "an easy" million, and still be prepping for The Classic, I'd offer the connections might be wise.

her owners have 100's of millions which blows that usually sound theory.

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

her owners have 100's of millions which blows that usually sound theory.

True enough, but racing history clocks comparison earnings like baseball fans track lifetime stats.


I think 20-0 and retiring as a 6 year old mare beating the best young boys in The Classic has been the goal for all of 2010.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

True enough, but racing history clocks comparison earnings like baseball fans track lifetime stats.

Not necessarily. See Symboli Rudolf.

[chucklestheclown]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

True enough, but racing history clocks comparison earnings like baseball fans track lifetime stats.


I think 20-0 and retiring as a 6 year old mare beating the best young boys in The Classic has been the goal for all of 2010.

It might have been the goal, but the "stats geeks" might like to see how often 3yos win in Grade 1s against older in the fall. For Zenyatta to beat Lucky or Blame won't prove that much to me. And as I have never been a QR fan that won't mean that much to me either, but I think he wins anyway.

[Smooth Operator]

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown

It might have been the goal, but the "stats geeks" might like to see how often 3yos win in Grade 1s against older in the fall. For Zenyatta to beat Lucky or Blame won't prove that much to me. And as I have never been a QR fan that won't mean that much to me either, but I think he wins anyway.

Will be HUGE if she can beat G1 males which are two and three years younger.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

Zenyatta has added about a million to her earnings thus far this year.

If the opportunity is there to pick up "an easy" million, and still be prepping for The Classic, I'd offer the connections might be wise.

...or the organization of the sport is a complete fucl<ing disaster as someone else already suggested on this page.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

Zenyatta has added about a million to her earnings thus far this year.

If the opportunity is there to pick up "an easy" million, and still be prepping for The Classic, I'd offer the connections might be wise.

I dont buy the idea that she has won easily in every race this year. And they may have made $2 million if they had been a little more adventerous. I also dont buy that you need the entire year to prep for one race.