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TouchOfGrey 10-15-2010 01:41 PM

Shirreffs says Zenyatta deserves '10 Horse of the Year
 
Shirreffs says Zenyatta deserves '10 Horse of the Year

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John Shirreffs said that he would consider it "a slap in the face" if Zenyatta does not receive the Eclipse Award as Horse of the Year even if the undefeated two-time champion older female suffers her first career defeat in the Breeders' Cup Classic (G1) on November 6 at Churchill Downs.

"All she's done for racing? She deserves it," Shirreffs said of the gold statuette.

randallscott35 10-15-2010 01:42 PM

Wait so now she doesn't even have to win and she still would get it....The whole gang surrounding this horse couldn't be less likable if they tried.

Coach Pants 10-15-2010 01:49 PM

"A slap in the face"

He needs a punch to the face. A slap in the face doesn't cut it. Maybe a good punch in the throat when he starts with the excuses.

Indian Charlie 10-15-2010 01:54 PM

This could be the beginning of them backing out of the BCC.

Thunder Gulch 10-15-2010 01:56 PM

With the level of competition, maybe they could give her the Claiming Crown instead.

Thunder Gulch 10-15-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 707445)
This could be the beginning of them backing out of the BCC.

I sure hope not. Win or lose, I just want her to run so we can know. Maybe not definatively, but a lot of people still on the fence- and there are a lot- will move to one side of the aisle or the other.

If it rains, oh my.

Merlinsky 10-15-2010 02:16 PM

If "all [he/she]'s done for racing" is the standard, we should go back and correct some past votes to make Funny Cide, Smarty Jones, and Barbaro HOY.

It's only a slap in the face if she wins the Classic and they still give it to someone else. If she loses to another legitimate HOY finalist fair and square, sorry, you can't give it to her with a straight face at that point. The award goes to the horse, Jerry, not you. If she doesn't get it, she'll go right on happily eating hay. She knows she's the queen. It's human beings that are getting all twisted in knots about whether she does or doesn't have her name on a trophy. She's got Champion Older Mare sewn up anyway.

parsixfarms 10-15-2010 02:16 PM

I thought she should have won the award last year, but the notion that she can win the award this year without winning the BC Classic, given her 2010 campaign, is simply delusional.

pba1817 10-15-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 707435)
The whole gang surrounding this horse couldn't be less likable if they tried.

About how I feel about this forum's participants...

NTamm1215 10-15-2010 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 707459)
About how I feel about this forum's participants...

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

knickslions2 10-15-2010 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 707459)
About how I feel about this forum's participants...

No one is holding a gun to your head to stay here

TouchOfGrey 10-15-2010 02:31 PM

But wait! There's more!
Shirreffs Talks Zenyatta


On Zenyatta’s 2010 campaign, which was different than the one the Mosses talked about when they decided to keep her in training:
“I think (the Mosses’ comments) were a little bit misinterpreted because we race in California, which is on the other side of the Rockies. So it’s a little different shipping around California than it is on the East Coast. We wanted to have the opportunity to let other people see her; which was obviously one of the reasons we went to Oaklawn Park with her. But when you have to decide where to go again, it’s tough to turn down a grade I race and take her somewhere else when California supports her and stables her and takes care of her.”

On deciding not to take on males in California this year:
“I really didn’t consider it at all because I always thought we would do the same thing as we did last year; hoping to have her peaked at the Breeders’ Cup Classic and not do anything that would cause any interference with that.”

On whether there is a scenario where they wouldn’t race her in the BC Classic, including an off track:
“I don’t really want to talk about that because Churchill Downs has a real ability to handle water. So I think we have to wait and see.”

On his disappointment if she would not win Horse of the Year in 2010, even if she loses the BC Classic:
“I would think it would be almost too much. For what she does for the industry for the last three years, I would say that would be a real slap in the face. Not only on performance but what’s she’s done for racing.”

On being reminded that Quality Road, Lookin At Lucky, and Blame could all make very good cases for Horse of the Year with a win in the BC Classic:
“I think I said exactly what I wanted to say.”

somerfrost 10-15-2010 02:32 PM

I agree, she's a once in a lifetime horse...best since the Bid and Big Red!

Coach Pants 10-15-2010 02:33 PM

teh best entertainment since Buffy teh Vampire Slayuh!

If she was in Hollywood she would be teh Sarah Michelle Gellah best eva omg omg! Bieber!

pba1817 10-15-2010 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 707460)
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 707462)
No one is holding a gun to your head to stay here

But you all would have one less guy to hate on... that would be un-American!!

hockey2315 10-15-2010 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 707465)
teh best entertainment since Buffy teh Vampire Slayuh!

If she was in Hollywood she would be teh Sarah Michelle Gellah best eva omg omg! Bieber!

:tro:

Antitrust32 10-15-2010 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 707464)
I agree, she's a once in a lifetime horse...best since the Bid and Big Red!

best race horse?

blackthroatedwind 10-15-2010 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pba1817 (Post 707459)
About how I feel about this forum's participants...

And to think, you're so popular here.

my miss storm cat 10-15-2010 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie (Post 707445)
This could be the beginning of them backing out of the BCC.

I think that's exactly what this is.

pba1817 10-15-2010 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 707476)
And to think, you're so popular here.

I'm not even popular in my own home...


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