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Old 10-18-2010, 12:50 PM
NTamm1215 NTamm1215 is offline
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Honestly I don't really care who wins HOY, to me it's rather tiring to have these discussions, but I would really like to hear from all those that wouldn't vote for Zenyatta even if she went on to win the BC Classic, if not her then who? At times I think the logic here is to say let's punish a horse for not travelling all but for 2 races and let's reward HOY for the mediocrity in QR and or Blame have shown in their last 2 races especially if they do not go on to win the BC Classic. Are these 2 more deserved of HOY? It makes absolutely no sense to me.
Anyone who would vote for any horse other than her if she wins the BC Classic has an axe to grind.

There's nothing similar to the situations that prevent a BC Classic winner from winning HOTY in place this year. I mean if Proviso wins the Mile (which will lead me to have a heart attack) then she should get some admiration but the vote ought to be unanimous.
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Old 10-18-2010, 12:51 PM
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Anyone who would vote for any horse other than her if she wins the BC Classic has an axe to grind.

There's nothing similar to the situations that prevent a BC Classic winner from winning HOTY in place this year. I mean if Proviso wins the Mile (which will lead me to have a heart attack) then she should get some admiration but the vote ought to be unanimous.
Get ready for that Heart Attack big guy.
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Old 10-18-2010, 12:53 PM
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Anyone who would vote for any horse other than her if she wins the BC Classic is out of their mind.

There's nothing similar to the situations that prevent a BC Classic winner from winning HOTY in place this year. I mean if Proviso wins the Mile (which will lead me to have a heart attack) then she should get some admiration but the vote ought to be unanimous.
I understand what you are saying and if Zenyatta wins the Classic, she'll be HOY and it'll be unamnimous. My point is, who will have had a better overall year? The award, to my understanding is supposed to be for accomplishments over the year.

I know I'm being stubborn, but their campaign is not a HOY campaign and I'm against rating the Breeders Cup as the be all end all.
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Old 10-18-2010, 02:16 PM
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I understand what you are saying and if Zenyatta wins the Classic, she'll be HOY and it'll be unamnimous. My point is, who will have had a better overall year? The award, to my understanding is supposed to be for accomplishments over the year.

I know I'm being stubborn, but their campaign is not a HOY campaign and I'm against rating the Breeders Cup as the be all end all.
I agree with this. Wouldn't 3 male/open company G1s throughout the year defeat 1 open company G1 and some female G1s?
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Old 10-18-2010, 12:59 PM
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Anyone who would vote for any horse other than her if she wins the BC Classic has an axe to grind.

There's nothing similar to the situations that prevent a BC Classic winner from winning HOTY in place this year. I mean if Proviso wins the Mile (which will lead me to have a heart attack) then she should get some admiration but the vote ought to be unanimous.
That race (the turf mile) has the makings as being the most interesting on the BC card. I hate making touts this far out, but if Gio Ponti does go in the mile, along with Rip V, and everyone's favorite and justifibly so Goldikova. Any upsetter could pay big divendends. Obviously Paco Boy could be the one, his turn of foot is huge, in europe on the long straights he hasn't been able to sustain it when racing against Goldikova, but at CD maybe he can.
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