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![]() Last game for Bobby Cox. As fine a manager as baseball has seen in the last forty years.
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![]() Complete nonsense. Has anyone done less with more in history? He was in the playoffs every year it seems and had an exit every year. 1 championship? Horrendous. Similar to the Mets underachievement during the 80's.
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A good manager helps keep a team together over 162 games + playoffs and puts them in a position to win. What more could he do? They spent money but it wasn't exactly a new York payroll. |
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The Main Course...the chosen or frozen entree?! |
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"He was in the playoffs every year" is now an underachievement? They won 15 straight division titles. There are 32 teams in baseball. What are the odds that another team wins 15 in a row ever? How many position players that played for Bobby Cox all those years are headed for the Hall of Fame? One. He has had some really good players but the idea that most years the Braves were overloaded with talent outside of Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz is mistaken. He was usually saddled with bullpens bought on the cheap and often made the playoffs with 2 or sometimes 3 players who were below average players in the starting line up. Robert Fick, Keith Lockhart, Eddie Perez, Rico Brogna, Quilvio Veras, Walt Weiss, Gerald Williams, Michael Tucker, Tony Graffinino, Mark Lemke, etc were all starters at some point during the 15 straight seasons. |
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![]() And the original post said Cox was basically the best manager of the past 40 years?...No way.
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![]() Of course, I say to myself, this is also the guy who claimed that Kyle Kendrick was a good pitcher...
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![]() Average, not good. But besides that, I wait until someone hits 30 to see what becomes of them.
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![]() They maybe ate too much cake icing.
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![]() I will ask once again. Who was better?
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![]() Who is better?
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![]() Gardenhire sucks too.
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![]() I don't think it's horrendous, but he was a better regular-season manager. In the post, his teams almost always shut it down on offense. I'm sure some of that's on him. How much? Hard to say, but, then, you also have to give him the credit for getting to the post so much. He did get a ring. So, I think the truth is somewhere in between your's n' Cannon's extremes.
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![]() Part of their job is motivational leader. That was not the man's strong point.
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![]() I wasn't aware that players needed extra motivation in the playoffs.
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Braves do. He's right. They lay regular as coke whores. |